• GBU_28@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    Wait, off topic, does posting a anti commercial license to a comment made on someone else’s network and platform and storage actually provide you durable rights related to the usage of your comment content?

    Could that ever be defended if the network maintainers don’t themselves support and agree to that?

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      2 months ago

      Probably not lol. Seems to me more along the lines of those folks copy/pasting the whole “I hereby claim that nothing on my Facebook can be used without my permission” on Facebook.

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      2 months ago

      They’re mislabeling the license too. CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 has nothing to do with “anti-commercial-AI.” It provides some terms for using content and, in theory if OP is willing to take someone to court, should provide some basis if the license is being abused. Until there’s actual precedence, though, it’s debatable whether or not sucking up CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 content is a breach of the license. For it to actually matter, someone needs to demonstrably prove 1) CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 content was sucked up by AI, 2) it was their content and it was licensed at the time, 3) the terms of the license were violated, and 4) other legal shit that will pop up during the course of the litigation. “Someone” has to be someone with deep fucking pockets willing to go the distance in many international jurisdictions.

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        I wouldn’t dare call it mislabelling since there is no precedent yet. Just the other day a judge ruled AI generated CSAM is still CSAM. If it can be proven beyond a doubt that an AI output comes from copyrighted works without proper license, will that AI violate the copyright? Also, will AI count as derivatives work from the training material or will it be treated like software compiler? I think a lot of our current legal framework is not up to speed to answer those questions. So I would not call it useless nor misleading.

        Also, lemmy doesn’t have EULA as far as I am aware of so the license of the content hosted on the instance is by default unlicensed. The user just notifies that to whoever wants to use their comment for whatever purpose, must abide by those licenses.

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        1 month ago

        HELLO MY DEAR FACEBOOK FRIENDS! I RECENTLY LEARNED THAT FACEBOOK RECENTLY CHANGED THEIR TERMS AND AGREEMENTS RECENTLY. NOW YOU MUST COPY AND PASTE THIS TEXT TO THE END OF ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS OR JARK SUCKERBURG WILL EAT YOUR BALLS.

        THE TEXT IS THIS:

        I DO NOT WANT JARK SUCKERBURG TO EAT MY BALLS.

        MAKE SURE YOU DO THIS OR JARK WILL EAT YOUR BALLS!!! 1

        I DO NOT WANT JARK SUCKERBURG TO EAT MY BALLS.

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        2 months ago

        Well, it propagates an illusion of legal mandate which is unrealistic, bordering on misinformation.

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          2 months ago

          It also adds clutter and noise to a public space, making it more irritating to scroll through comments. It’s like someone having a private conversation on speaker phone while you’re waiting in line at a Starbucks or whatever.

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            2 months ago

            I feel like a better analogy is someone who signs their text messages which is a more recent problem than people with obnoxiously long forum signatures.