The casual implication here that a round of ammo in your luggage doesn’t imply you are an unsafe gun owner is insane. Lost rounds don’t just happen, they are a sign that the person didn’t account for all their ammo and secure it properly. There’s no reason to give these people a pass.
You just completely switch the argument with a red herring.
It doesn’t matter whether that person is a safe gun owner or not here. And a lost round of ammunition is such an armchair take it makes me question if you should even have an opinion on the subject…
A round of ammunition in your bag should not equate to years of prison, end of story.
I had a box of .22 rounds in my backpack that I was bringing back from the gun store. Lo and behold it was loose, and some had unknowingly fell into my bag. I didn’t notice they were there for years until I did a deep clean of my backpack. No one counts throw-away ammunition.
Good to see that Lemmy is becoming as toxic A wasteland as Reddit ever was.
Armchairing ✅
Personal attacks instead of attacking the arguments ✅
Silent downvotes instead of actual discussion ✅
Misrepresenting an anecdote ✅
All I did was provide an anecdote to show how easy it is to lose a round of ammunition. No one is strictly inventorying their .22 ammunition, it literally comes in boxes of loose rounds. Holes in the corners easily cause some to be misplaced during transportation. It’s not common but it happens, and when it does you’re not going to know, because, again, no one is inventorying their loose rounds.
Despite me calling out the armchair opinion, you decide that doubling down on the armchairness was more appropriate, and used an anecdote as a way to personally attack me, instead of my argument.
You made no attempt to actually address the point I was making, and instead took the easy route which is just personal attacks…
I didnt say it wasn’t irresponsible and I didnt say give them a pass. I said don’t give them years in prison for an honest harmless mistake. Maybe ban them from returning? Something less extreme…
Do you realize there are 5 cases already like this? Do you know why? Because this mistake is super common.
Do you realize that means this probably happened dozens of times a year before this recent change took effect? And that all those people in the past returned home with their ammo completely undetected by anyone, including themselves?
You know what something’s called when nobody even notices it happened?
The casual implication here that a round of ammo in your luggage doesn’t imply you are an unsafe gun owner is insane. Lost rounds don’t just happen, they are a sign that the person didn’t account for all their ammo and secure it properly. There’s no reason to give these people a pass.
You just completely switch the argument with a red herring.
It doesn’t matter whether that person is a safe gun owner or not here. And a lost round of ammunition is such an armchair take it makes me question if you should even have an opinion on the subject…
A round of ammunition in your bag should not equate to years of prison, end of story.
I had a box of .22 rounds in my backpack that I was bringing back from the gun store. Lo and behold it was loose, and some had unknowingly fell into my bag. I didn’t notice they were there for years until I did a deep clean of my backpack. No one counts throw-away ammunition.
“Responsible gun owner” right here, folks.
Good to see that Lemmy is becoming as toxic A wasteland as Reddit ever was.
All I did was provide an anecdote to show how easy it is to lose a round of ammunition. No one is strictly inventorying their .22 ammunition, it literally comes in boxes of loose rounds. Holes in the corners easily cause some to be misplaced during transportation. It’s not common but it happens, and when it does you’re not going to know, because, again, no one is inventorying their loose rounds.
Despite me calling out the armchair opinion, you decide that doubling down on the armchairness was more appropriate, and used an anecdote as a way to personally attack me, instead of my argument.
You made no attempt to actually address the point I was making, and instead took the easy route which is just personal attacks…
You can do better than that.
I didnt say it wasn’t irresponsible and I didnt say give them a pass. I said don’t give them years in prison for an honest harmless mistake. Maybe ban them from returning? Something less extreme…
They didn’t get years in prison, look up “suspended sentence”.
lol
Do you realize there are 5 cases already like this? Do you know why? Because this mistake is super common.
Do you realize that means this probably happened dozens of times a year before this recent change took effect? And that all those people in the past returned home with their ammo completely undetected by anyone, including themselves?
You know what something’s called when nobody even notices it happened?
Harmless. Absent of harm.
Maybe it’s common for Americans to be this lax with their weaponry?
I don’t see the citizens of other countries making the same “common” mistake.