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      Listening to Kirby yesterday was enraging. “Israel said that they are doing everything in their power to limit civilian casualties in their Rafah operations, and we have no reason not to take them at their word”

      Really? Because have they ever bothered to limit civilian casualties so far? Media kept re-probing him to see if he would give any sympathetic response, instead he dug in, got annoyed that they were asking similar questions and reiterated how he doesn’t think the Israelis did anything bad. Biden should fire Kirby just for his complete lack to tact.

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        Yeah, I too would much rather get pneumonia than stage 4 leukemia. Would have been swell to get neither, though…

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      Not if Blinken continues to provide inconclusive reports. POTUS makes international diplomacy decisions based on intelligence provided by the State Department. It’s not based the President’s opinion, US citizens, news, the UN, the ICC, or the ICJ, but state intelligence. Biden needs to put pressure on Blinken to provide a thorough and conclusive report, or replace him with someone who will.

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        Blinken is releasing the reports thr president wants released. The actual intelligence is provided in classified reports provided to the president and some members of Congress. What gets made public is a policy decision that flows down from the top.

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          That does not change if the report is conclusive or inconclusive, nor does it change the content within. It only limits what can and cannot be shared with the public.

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    The new strategy of Israel is to attack refugee camps so often that we dont know if its new attacks or late news…

    The only way to distinguish them is by the number of dead civilians

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    Hamas shouldn’t store weapons near civilian areas. They should also release the hostages and surrender.

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      Okay Genocide justifier.

      You do realize this logic is the same as if someone from a different household punches you, it gives you the moral right to shoot someone else from that same household in the head, right?

      Finally, this blind allegiance to a morally wrong actor is going to make the rest of the world treat Israelis as the world treated Apartheid South Africans. I hope you enjoy being ostracized.

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        To add to this, Hamas has agreed to release the hostages several times. However Israel won’t agree to a ceasefire, and so the hostages haven’t been released.

        Israel doesn’t want the hostages released, because then they can’t use the hostages as justification for their genocide.

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      I don’t think you’re being downvoted because anyone disagrees with you. Of course the terrorist organization should stop terrorizing people. But your comment really comes across as apologizing for the civilian deaths.

      “You’re not wrong, you’re just an asshole.”

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        You’re naive if you think no one disagrees. There’s people on here consistently cheerleading for Hamas and at every protest you see people cosplaying as Hamas. There is a lot of support for genocide, so long as it’s Jews that are the ones being murdered.

        And yeah, Hamas is using civilians as human shields. If you actually cared about Palestinian civilians you wouldn’t be calling people assholes for denouncing the actions of the real genocidal terrorists that are only getting Palestinian civilians killed with their cowardly tactics. But you don’t really care about Palestinian civilians, you only care about hating Israel.

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          Can you share some links to these posts that support Hamas? Are they generally up-voted, or down-voted? There are trolls on every platform.

          But you don’t really care about Palestinian civilians, you only care about hating Israel.

          Making these kinds of strawman, ad-hominem attacks against me makes me very hesitant to engage in any kind of serious conversation with you, but maybe that’s your intent? I am certain I haven’t said anything that would make anyone think I hate Isreal.

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            Can you share some links to these posts that support Hamas?

            That would be a waste of my time. You don’t strike me as someone that would be convinced by facts.

            I am certain I haven’t said anything that would make anyone think I hate Isreal.

            You call people assholes when they state facts about the fucked up shit Hamas does.

            This is cult behaviour… always attack never even try to defend the horrible things your side does because it’s indefensible.

            But maybe I’m wrong. Are you capable of unconditionally denouncing Hamas?

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              Your entire post is a series of strawman arguments. You clearly aren’t interested in conversing in good faith, so I’m out.

              “Don’t wrestle with pigs. You both get filthy and the pig likes it.”

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                  I know I already said I’m out, but that’s the most truthful thing you’ve said in this entire conversation. Thanks for finally being somewhat honest.