• SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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    1 month ago

    Can you share some links to these posts that support Hamas?

    That would be a waste of my time. You don’t strike me as someone that would be convinced by facts.

    I am certain I haven’t said anything that would make anyone think I hate Isreal.

    You call people assholes when they state facts about the fucked up shit Hamas does.

    This is cult behaviour… always attack never even try to defend the horrible things your side does because it’s indefensible.

    But maybe I’m wrong. Are you capable of unconditionally denouncing Hamas?

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      1 month ago

      Your entire post is a series of strawman arguments. You clearly aren’t interested in conversing in good faith, so I’m out.

      “Don’t wrestle with pigs. You both get filthy and the pig likes it.”

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          I know I already said I’m out, but that’s the most truthful thing you’ve said in this entire conversation. Thanks for finally being somewhat honest.

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            1 month ago

            The truth is you can’t bring yourself to denounce Hamas. Monsters that actually commit genocide and you can’t denounce them. And you call other people assholes.

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                As much as you try to normalize genocide by creating a false equivalency between the actions of Hamas (genocide) and the actions of Israel (war) these are actually two very different things to people outside of your information silo. You want to believe that Hamas aren’t bad guys for what they did on October 7, so you have the need to subscribe to a “both sides” narrative which means that you have to believe Israel is committing genocide.

                The flaw with the “both sides” mentality is that you’re admitting you’re actually fine with the horrible actions of your side. Trying to prove the other side is just as bad as your side does nothing to show that your side is good. You’re just trying to prove other people are as bad as you are so you can continue to subscribe to the narrative you’re accustomed to. Feeling that maintaining a narrative is more important than reality causes a disconnect and that disconnect from reality can lead to some very dark places.

                On October 7 Hamas showed themselves for who they are. It’s upsetting the Palestinian movement has made no effort to disconnect from Hamas, but that’s how it went. If the Palestinian movement were a non-violent resistance movement, I’d 100% support it. But unfortunately it’s not that kind of movement. It’s a hate movement, with Hamas firmly embedded. Every protests I’ve seen, I’ve seen people cosplaying as Hamas. Why would people cosplay as people who commit genocide? It’s a movement with hateful violent people embedded within it. In movements led by violent people, it doesn’t matter how many non-violent people join. There’s a power that comes from violence and violent people don’t need to care about the opinions of the non-violent. The non-violent have to do as the violent want or there will be a night of the long knives.

                You probably see the Hamas cosplayers at protests just as I do. You need to rationalize why it’s ok to be a part of movement that very visibly supports genocide, as long as it’s their side doing it. But the truth is Hamas committed Genocide, not matter what rationalization you try cover it up with. No matter how many videos designed to keep you angry at Israel so you don’t think about what Hamas did, no matter how hard you try to avoid talking to people that don’t believe the narrative you hang on to, none of this changes the fact that Hamas committed genocide on October 7. And you’re seemingly fine with it.

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                  I’m not saying “both sides”, Israel is absolutely worse than Hamas. Israel was founded by terrorists and honors them by naming streets and buildings after them. Israel has been an ethnic cleansing project from the start and has used acts of terrorism to accomplish their goals all along the way. They’ve most recently ripped their masks off and are committing full-on genocide now, in a manner so flagrant that many who were ignorant to the horrors perpetuated by Israel can see it now.

                  Yes, that’s right, Israel is worse than a terrorist group, which is quite the accomplishment for a “legitimate” state. Israel should be dissolved like Nazi Germany was. The world doesn’t need an apartheid ethnostate, especially when it commits genocide.