What do y’all think? Does switching to Linux as an entire corporation mean RedHat? Or could it be done on a distro like Debian?

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    5 months ago

    The Windows target costumer has always been the employer – expect group policies to disable Recall in any enterprise version. Not Home though.

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      5 months ago

      Yeah, gonna suck for all those with Home who become the AI trainers of tomorrow! While it’ll suck for us in IT who constantly have to pivot and scramble to block shit every time Microsoft or other software company decides to jam AI into it’s product.

  • Possibly linux@lemmy.zip
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    5 months ago

    No

    Look at the VMware Broadcom merger. The price went way up and companies paid it anyway. However some did switch to the cloud or some other hypervisor.

    Also the Linux desktop isn’t geared as much towards the enterprise. It isn’t easy to lock down and the vast amount of options is a blessing and a curse.

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      Look at the VMware Broadcom merger. The price went way up and companies paid it anyway. However some did switch to the cloud or some other hypervisor.

      It is not all of us Enterprises that “just paid”. We chose a migration project over “just paying” Broadcom and would not call it a merger, but rather a takeover.

  • JJROKCZ@lemmy.world
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    No… we just won’t buy the recall PCs and will disable it on the normal enterprise licensed workstations via GPO. Could always block the update in WSUS as well if you’re using that vs another RMM tool

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    Chances are that many large entities are in too deep. It’s what Microsoft were counting on before the backlash, and now they’re probably going to do it by stealth instead.

    If I have to use Windows, I want the configuration of Windows that will run on the computers at a country’s top intelligence agencies.

    Because sure as hell those places will have it locked down and not sending one solitary thing back to Microsoft, whether they have to configure it themselves or put the fear of the unholy into Microsoft to get that to happen.

    And if not that, the configuration that Bill Gates or Mark “I put tape over my webcam and deactivate my mic for no particular reason” Zuckerberg will use.

  • slazer2au@lemmy.world
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    No, there was always an off switch for enterprise versions of win 11 before MS back peddled and made it opt in.

    Enterprises have a function called Group Policy where you can make mass adjustments to managed PCs and no doubt there would be a setting there to disable Recall.

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      Technically, GPOs are just registry adjustments with English definitions tacked on. No doubt there will be tools for Home editions to fix this; for those that look, that is.

      An example of this, that comes to mind, is Windows Update Blocker (WUB). All it does is enable the policies that block Windows Updates from Microsoft servers and stops their attempted workaround of the Windows Update Medic or whatever it is, which is solely talked with making sure the WU service is running. These are the same policies/registry settings that are triggered when an enterprise org uses WSUS to control update deployment.

      I don’t doubt, though, that Microsoft will to something shitty to ensure Home users cannot block it forever.

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    No.

    If you’re talking about desktops, there is a huge cost involved in switching to an entirely new operating system. I’m not just talking about “How do you get it installed and configured on n laptops for users to then use?” Those users will require training in order to use it - and allllll of the new and different applications that run on that new operating system. (Users are mainly just button pressers, and when you change the buttons …) The alternative to the above would simply be to disable Recall via group policy. Done and done.

    If you’re talking about migrating Active Directory to some Linux LDAP centralized authentication, that’s going to introduce a whole lot of other complications. Not impossible, no, but it would be a very long, time-consuming, and costly process.

    If you’re talking about servers, you surely know that lots of companies run Linux servers on the back end. When you’re using Windows servers, there’s a reason. You want/need to use MS SQL, or Exchange on premise, or SharePoint on premise, for example. Are there other mail servers, database servers, collaboration servers? Sure - but again, switching from an existing platform to a different platform is costly.

    These transition costs get exponentially higher when you consider whether companies actually have the in-house expertise to be able to pull off such a thing (Narrator: They don’t.)

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      5 months ago

      Active directory is just a LDAP server for the most part. You can join Linux clients to it without issue.

    • 0x0@programming.dev
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      5 months ago

      Macs are expensive though. Fine for managers to use for presentations and meetings but no way you could justify that expense for a dev.

      • That’s not as much of a deciding factor as you might think. Enterprise laptops are stupidly overpriced; I wouldn’t be surprised if buying Macs didn’t actually save the average corporation money.

        The real cost is in the support contract, and any CIO or senior manager knows this. The trick is finding a company to provide Mac hardware support at an enterprise level. None of this going into a Genius Bar and standing around for an hour until an employee deigns to notice you; they want a telephone number they can call, get someone 24/7 (or some proximity thereof), and get someone to come over and fix the CEO’s laptop when the battery swells up. Or, more probably, when they run a diagnostic and find out it’s bad memory, or whatever - they want to be able to swap out hardware on a call, and have a rotating upgrade plan, and all that shizzle.

        The cost of the laptops is almost incidental.