• moonburster@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Tbf a lot of movies in America are subsidized by the army. If a movie plays in America and has army vehicles in then, check for them in the credits

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      2 months ago

      Technically correct, but your comment makes it sound like the military is actively commissioning movies, which is not the case. When Hollywood wants to make historical or war movies, they have few options:

      • Buy the equipment - one military ship or airplane can be more than the whole movie’s budget.
      • Prop/CGI - may look bad and doesn’t guaranty to be cheaper.
      • Get all the gear for free, loaned out from the military (including training and specialists) - but they get to edit and approve your script.

      I wish there were more options for independent and critical movie makers.

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        The person you replied to said “subsidized”, which implies what you just explained. The US military provides support to movies and TVs. However, it would be naive to think that the military still doesn’t try to influence the production. It’s been a long time since I have listened to it but there was a podcast mentioning “Zero Dark Thirty” having influence from the CIA; and the movie is about justifying torture to get results for “the greater good”. This is in spite of the report commissioned during the Obama era that torture never yielded any significant results.

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      Same with games like CoD. Fucking Activision has former CIA execs working for them. And how they use real events in the games and spin them around to make America look like the good guy.

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        Good guy might be generous.

        CoD makes the US and her allies look like Hodor at the door. A big dumb idiot holding back the swarm.

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    I think the only country that’s legit happened to was Iraq,

    Usually it’s more about how traumatized the POWs captured by your country’s soldiers were. Unbroken being the major cinematic example, and all the stories about Senator McCain refusing early release and being tortured for it and the guy who blinked reports of torture out in morse code while reading a hostage statement in Vietnam being the more “stuff of legends” examples.

    American Sniper is the only one I’ve seen where it’s about how some soldier who didn’t experience anything above the typical background humm of war felt about the whole thing.

    Probably because being a US military troop is the least dangerous it’s ever been, so the major condition most troops will face isn’t death or permanent injury, but instead PTSD from having faced combat or Survivor’s guilt from having been suddenly shifted off the rare doomed mission or patrol that still claims casualties at the last second.

    Most enlisted troops are just career workers in camo with a REALLY rigorous on the job fitness program. There’s a reason the US is everyone’s intel and logistics repository, and it’s because for every dollar spent on actually fighting, ten get spent on building up so much intelligence that the deck is as stacked as it can be before the cards even come out of the box to be dealt.

    Edit: get not grt

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      I think the only country that’s legit happened to was Iraq,

      M*A*S*H (Korea)

      Jarhead (Iraq, but the first time)

      Lone Survivor (Afghanistan)

      The Men Who Stare at Goats (Guantanamo Bay Torture Facility in Cuba)

      Letters from Iwo Jima (Pacific Theater - WW2)

      Saving Private Ryan (European Theater - WW2)

      Heartbreak Ridge (Grenada)

      The Good Shepherd (Bay of Pigs Invasion, Cuba)

      Full Metal Jacket (Vietnam)

      Rambo (Vietnam)

      Apocalypse Now (Vietnam)

      We Were Soldiers (Vietnam)

      Good Morning, Vietnam (Vietnam)

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        Yes, because fucking Rambo of all movies is about how bad american soldiers felt about what they did.

        Thanks for the laugh

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            2 months ago

            It’s funny, but it’s not true.

            It’s something like “the gallant people of Afghanistan” and always was.

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                Possibly.

                The English language version is here at 2:30

                https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9pV1JrRI4w

                It’s not out of the question because Afghanistan were on our side back then, and by on our side, I mean America gave them weapons to fight the Russians, and then abandoned them immediately the second Russia gave up.

                It’s just I’ve never seen any real evidence of it… It’s always just that one still which seems to be from a second or so before the real one.