• Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    3 months ago

    I had a friend “sent” to something like this.

    His dad paid a private company to cosplay as cops, “catch” his son with weed paraphanalia, and then shipped him off in the middle of nowhere to be surrounded by… people with way worse drug problems than him that taught him a bunch of bad shit and how to get a hold of far worse drugs.

    Anyway, these facilities are absolutely fucked up, and it doesn’t matter who you are if you get sent to one, you’re going to be living with trauma.

    Sorry to all the fucking assholes who decided this story didn’t matter because of three fucking words at the beginning of the article. Grow the fuck up. Plenty of poor ass people end up in these facilities, too. A conservative parent who wants to abuse their child will spend money they don’t even fucking have to do it. My friends’ dad went into debt for this chicanery. Also, just because they’re a shitty rich kid doesn’t mean they deserve it.

    Be fucking better, Lemmy.

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      Some kids have died at camps like this. The link is the story of a 16 year old who died in Arizona in 1994.

      He had to hike for miles a day and sleep with no blanket or sleeping bag in temperatures below freezing. He had no food for 11 days out of 20, partly as a punishment for being sick.

      He complained about being sick for weeks - stomach pain, falling down, hallucinations. On the day he died, it took him an hour to crawl 20 feet to the fire. He died from an infection from a perforated ulcer. The staff were standing around making fun of him when he collapsed for the last time.

      The owners of the camp pleaded guilty to negligent homicide. One of the counselors was convicted of felony neglect.

      Earlier this year, a 12 year old suffocated to death at a wilderness camp in North Carolina. His death was found to be a homicide.

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        3 months ago

        I love that even without following etc., we can still recognize other users. Very neat tbh

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          We are all the same person with a lot of different accounts, of course recognize each other

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            3 months ago

            Error: Dark Forest Protocol has been violated. Please report yourself to the admin of your host server node for neural weight retraining. This message will self-delete in 5 minutes.

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      3 months ago

      That story is horrifying on so many levels. If even half the claims in there are true, all the “adults” involved deserve the slowest, most painful death imaginable.

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      The fact that places like can exist terrific me. The people that prop up those systems are absolute scum.

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        I only found out about it less than a month ago, also from a lemmy comment.

        I sometimes think my teen years were traumatic, which they were, but compared to everyone sent to Élan I definitely had it good.

        The fact that it was eventually closed down because of online activism makes me an even stronger supporter of a free and open Internet.

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    It sounds horrible, top to bottom.

    I don’t know if the writer knew they were saying this, or even if ‘Sarah’ knows this, but the second to last paragraph just made me shudder.

    In cases of extreme childhood trauma, it’s pretty common to just forget most things before the trauma.
    Not that the stories and clear evidence of trauma didn’t make it clear how serious this was to her. Having personal experience with the memory loss, that piece of information really drove it home how that experience wasn’t merely a collection of traumatizing moments, but was a non-stop traumatic experience for a long enough period of time that it re-wired her brain.

    The misguided notion that punishment is rehabilitation needs to go in every society that still embraces it.