• wurzelgummidge@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    What comes next?

    NED sponsored ‘student’ protests, probably. Gotta get some democracy to all those oil reserves

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      3 months ago

      Yes, because no population on this planet ever acts against their dictators without the U.S. forcing them to do so.

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        3 months ago

        Yes, because no population on this planet ever acts against their dictators without the U.S. funding them

        FTFY

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          3 months ago

          That explains the Chinese revolution, the Mexican revolution, hell the French revolution too :)

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              3 months ago

              When your government botches an election in such a spectacular way, it is expected that the population would react in any country. I don’t know where you live, but if some protofascist steals an election e.g. Bolsonaro/Trump, we will both be out there rioting with good reason, it won’t be because the CIA paid us.

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                Or in other words: Potential protesters are not sitting at home like “Oh man, I so want to protest this shit, but the CIA didn’t pay me yet, so I can’t :(”

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              3 months ago

              Sure. The Velvet Revolution.

              Or are you going to claim that Czechs and Slovaks have no self-determination? I’m sure some here will be willing to chime in and tell you otherwise.

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            3 months ago

            It certainly helps to explain America’s long history of regime change and destabilisation initiatives

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              3 months ago

              Therefore stolen elections by leftists are allowed forever.

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                3 months ago

                It’s not even a leftist thing, the U.S. opposes right-wing power grabs and coups abroad as well, and has for at least two decades.

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                  3 months ago

                  no, those we agree on, it is you who are inconsistent and consider leftist coups good for some ideological reason.

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                    we

                    We = US/Nato + poodles and sycophants

                    The only reason “we” care is because of oil. If you think it is anything to do with democracy I’d like to remind you that the tooth fairy comes at 8.00pm

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          Plenty of revolutions have happened, before, during, and after the Cold War without U.S. support, the U.S. actively opposed the breakup of the Soviet Union for example, and yet it happened, and several democracies were created from it’s downfall, with little influence from the U.S.

          dictators without the U.S. funding them FTFY

          Even if the U.S. government did regularly fund protests/resistance against dictatorships, why would that be a bad thing? As long as it’s not singlehandedly deciding on regime change like in Iraq, I don’t see anything morally wrong with supporting pro-democracy causes within dictatorships.

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      3 months ago

      Yea, and it was the CIA who stole the election too to make Maduro look bad. Those machiavellian americans!