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    Do you think a democratic bureaucratic fully checked and balanced revolution would succeed in overthrowing the structure?

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            USSR and PRC had really bad checks and balances since they let dictators consolidate power and form cults of personality. You really think those are good examples of your point? Have you read entirely different histories than I have? Which books do you recommend then?

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                Soviet Russia and China were nominally a democracies, but both were controlled by individuals without checks. Stallin and Mau respectively. Again, what history books are you reading that is saying otherwise?

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                  Soviet Russia and China were nominally a democracies, but both were controlled by individuals without checks.

                  Do you have any proof of this? Historical evidence is much the opposite, as the sources I have linked show you.

                  Stallin and Mau respectively.

                  Stalin was not without checks, nor did he control the entire USSR, according to historical evidence including internal CIA memos. Mao was forced out of power due to his failures with the Cultural Revolution, directly proving that checks not only existed, but were used.

                  Again, what history books are you reading that is saying otherwise?

                  The ones I have linked.

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                    The book you linked seemed to be a explicitly Communist reexamining. I wouldn’t really go to that for unbiased history. But anyway.

                    Do you agree that Stalin and Mau created cults of personality?