Every show with a suicide now has a disclaimer with a suicide hotline at the beginning. Is there any evidence that these warnings make a positive difference?

  • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.org
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    19 days ago

    Based on what I’ve heard about the US’s 988, it may rather be negative.

    Oh, you’re thinking of killing yourself, let us reinforce that by being absolutely rude, or better yet, time to get taken away by cops into a psych ward.

    Let’s see what’s out there with some example (Reddit)
    Summary: Person called 988, police showed up 90 minutes later, got taken for mandatory psychological evaluation, forced to stay 2 days in ER, ended up getting billed $6,470.

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      18 days ago

      I think this kind of anecdotal horror story exists in every country, but of course it’s not the usual outcome.

      There’s a whole chain of people involved in a process like this, and I have a hard time believing that everyone in that chain routinely locks up healthy people just to give themselves more work to do.

      I think it’s far more likely that there are many people who genuinely should spend a few days in a psych ward but are unable to due to a lack of resources.

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        18 days ago

        This isn’t anecdotal. It’s really quite a common response that only further traumatizes the victims and leaves them with a financial burden.

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          18 days ago

          This is really reductive and doesn’t really consider how complex these situations can be.

          What should police or first responders do when someone is at risk of harming themselves or others?

          Whatever your answer, consider that the person is already having a bad day, and there are no on the spot cures for what ails them.

          Hospitals in general are not nice places to be, as a patient. If you’re there for a physical illness it’s still traumatic.

          You don’t go there to have a nice time, you go there to avoid the worst outcomes, like death.

          I am certain that there are very, very few instances where people end up in a psych ward when there’s better places for them.

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            18 days ago

            People are there because their lives suck. Traumatizing them and putting them in debt just makes the suffering worse. Putting them through this process DOES NOT help them.

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              15 days ago

              Sorry mate, this is just plain wrong.

              People are there because they have complex medical conditions which require specialist personnel and facilities.

              Yes it can be scary and expensive, but it’s the best way to manage a shit situation.

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                15 days ago

                If you are experiencing psychosis, then this will absolutely help you. If you are suicidal, it will not.