• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    food, protection from predators, protection from the elemnts, and veterinary care is not abusive. i would describe it as “symbiotic”.

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      1 year ago

      You think any animal would choose this “safety” for beeing killed after a max of 1/10 of their lifespan? I wont even start about the living conditions most animals are in. For sea animals also nothing of your arguments holds true and we kill a fuckton of those.

      You know its one thing to contribute to suffering because change is hard. Pretending this is something symbiotic is ridicoulus though.

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        1 year ago

        You think any animal would choose this “safety” for beeing killed after a max of 1/10 of their lifespan?

        i don’t know of any animal killed at 1/10 of their lifespan.

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        1 year ago

        You think any animal would choose this “safety” for beeing killed after a max of 1/10 of their lifespan?

        i have yet to find proof that nonhuman animals understand personal mortality, so they wouldn’t even be able to understand the choice you are presenting.

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          There is tons of evidence if you would not refuse to look. Especially social animals (for example pigs and cows) would outcast individuals out of their herd. They are also quite intelligent. But hey it is comfortable to pretend we got some high ground while we all know that animals have feelings and that what we do is cruel beyond imagination. And all that to just satisfy some urge for a special taste and convenience. I wish people would at least not pretend its ok.

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            1 year ago

            get me a peer reviewed article that says they understand personal mortality. I’ll read it start to finish

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        1 year ago

        Pretending this is something symbiotic is ridicoulus though.

        this is literally an appeal to ridicule, not a refutation.

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          1 year ago

          Well maybe it is because a symbiotic relationship would need tonsomewhat benefit both parties. In this relationship we are more of a cruel and sadistic parasite, just waiting for the best moment to kill (when profit and taste is at its best). But no, i guess being forcefully impregnated, seperated from offspring and milked until your are unprofitable is a symbiotic relationship in your mind. As a thanks for service these cows get killed after half of their live span. But hey atleast they get much more than our beloved meat live stock. You should also look how naturally these cows and their udders have ‘’''evolved"" in the last hundred years. Much more cruel than what has been done to pugs (not that this is fine). The same goes for hens (for eggs) and the absurd amount of breast muscle chickenbreeds have.

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            1 year ago

            As a thanks for service these cows get killed after half of their live span.

            I’m pretty sure the average lifespan of dairy cattle is 3 or 4 years