• aski3252@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Unless you have a system without a GUI, you don’t need to open a terminal in order to update or install stuff. There is a GUI for that. And no, you don’t need to build stuff from GitHub for normal user stuff…

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      Not using the terminal is like buying a race car and not using the higher gears. I mean, you can, but what’s the fucking point?

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        I have a lot more fun in my performance car avoiding the top gears, actually. Like after 3rd im already losing my licence on the spot and getting bent over by the law, higher gears are just that but worse.

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      I tried that on linux, it doesn’t work if you want to do more than browse the web and other basic stuff.

      You can do some seriously advanced stuff on windows using only GUIs

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        We were talking about normal user stuff that normal users do, not “seriously advanced stuff”… And I agree that most normal users probably don’t want to use terminals because they are not familiar with them. But normal users probably don’t and shouldn’t do “seriously advanced stuff”, no?

        Yes, if you are trying to do “serously advanced stuff” (whatever that means), chances are you will probably need a terminal (or a terminal will at least be easier), but you shouldn’t be doing “seriously advanced stuff” unless you know what you are doing anyway…

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          I just wanted to install steam, but it wasn’t in the package manager list.

          Then I tried apt-get and that didnt work, I forgot why.

          You don’t have to do seriously advanced stuff on linux to run into issues without using the terminal.

          My point was, even if you actually do some advanced stuff on windows you still don’t have to use the terminal.

          It’s not realistic that you don’t have to use the terminal on linux if you want to do any more than web browsing and some text editing, etc.

          That doesn’t mean that linux is bad, but let’s be realistic about what it is.

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            To install Steam on most distros with popular DE’s, you click the software store to open the software store. If Steam isn’t listed in the front page then just click the search box and start typing Steam.

            When you see it, click the install button.

            When it is done open it by clicking the Open button or pressing the Windows (or Super) key and type Steam. Click it when you see it.

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            Weird, I would expect Steam to be in the Ubuntu repos (assuming that’s what you were using, since you mention apt), but maybe not. As for apt, or apt-get, they are just the terminal equivalent of the GUI package manager (synaptic? it’s been a minute since I ran ubuntu), so if something isn’t in the repos, apt at the terminal won’t find it either. If it’s not in the repos, you should be able to download and install steam from the website just like you would in windows. It gives you a .deb file which will launch just like an executable installer in Ubuntu. But to your point, yes, sometimes things in linux take a little extra thinking to get to work. Getting accustomed to the way Linux works can help overcome hiccups like this. Windows has many quirks as well, it’s just that if you use WIndows often you know your way around them.

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            That experience is highly dependent on the Linux distro you’re using. Steam comes preinstalled on gaming-centric distros like Nobara or Pop!_OS. More “general purpose” distros like Mint or Ubuntu might require adding an apt repository before you can install steam from their GUI package managers, but adding an apt repo can be easily accomplished with a GUI as well.

            Basically, if there’s no guide for installing steam for a given distro, or the process of installing steam is more than a couple easy steps, that specific distro probably isn’t well suited to run steam.