• atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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    20 days ago

    This is not “what freedom looks like” this is “what a violent rebellion looks like”. There are good odds that the new regime will be as bad or even worse. People who overthrow a power with military force aren’t often interested in sharing that power afterwards.

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        20 days ago

        I don’t know what to tell you - people always think there must be a “good” option, and if the current one is bad then any other option must therefore be good.

        This could also be a radical regime like the Taliban that could actually be worse for most people.

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          20 days ago

          What about this: the status quo under Assad with houndred of thousands tortured and murdered is bad enough to try to change it.

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            20 days ago

            Well… Yeah. But do the rebels care about that? Or do they just feel that Asad was just torturing and murdering the wrong people? And do they feel that Assad was just not following the koran closely enough by allowing women to be educated?

            Rebellion against oppression often leads to a different type of oppression, and given the groups these rebels have been associated with in the past it’s concerning at least.

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          20 days ago

          This is untrue considering their track record after the rebranding from Al-Nusra to HTS. They’re not spawning out of thin air.

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            20 days ago

            What is untrue? My concern? How can my concern be “untrue?”

            The skills needed to be a revolutionary are very different from the skills needed to govern. Remember when the taliban was “kinder and softer” for a few months?

            I’ll be happy if my concern is misplaced. But time will tell.

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              20 days ago

              How can my concern be “untrue?”

              The idea that they “could be” ignores the fact that they’ve been actively governing their territories since (and before, I guess) 2017, and they haven’t started a Taliban-style brutal regime there. I mean I guess it’s not impossible for them to suddenly change their style of governing, but what I’m trying to say that they have a track record we can use to try and predict their future behavior.

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                19 days ago

                So maybe next time have a conversation rather than just telling somebody “that’s untrue”? No need to be weirdly adversarial…

                That said - you raise some good points. I’m not ignoring anything though. You’re acting like my “concern” is saying “things will go bad” when it’s not.

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                  19 days ago

                  So maybe next time have a conversation rather than just telling somebody “that’s untrue”? No need to be weirdly adversarial…

                  That… is fair enough.

                  I’m not ignoring anything though. You’re acting like my “concern” is saying “things will go bad” when it’s not.

                  Wasn’t my intention to be adversarial but that is also fair enough.