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    10 months ago

    “Steven Crowder Does Not Deserve a Meme Format” deserves a meme format!

  • Aa!@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I agree that Crowder shouldn’t be a meme.

    I also think that his meme “Change my mind” shouldn’t live on through Calvin. We can get the point across without keeping any of the Crowder-created bits.

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        10 months ago

        Pretty much. Their whole identity is basically “not Christianity”. They don’t even worship Satan!

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          10 months ago

          My Satanism aligns with The Satanic Temple which has positive values that are summed up in the 7 Tenets. It’s true that it’s “not Christianity”, but that is true for every religion (except for Christianity).

          They don’t even worship Satan!

          Why would we? Satan doesn’t exist, but even if he did, worshiping him would just be reactionary anti-Christianity, replacing one god with another.

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    10 months ago

    Sure, I’ll play this game.

    The premise of the convincing is loaded. No one deserves shit. Steven Crowder made the format famous and therefore he is attributed to it.

    Whether or not the person is a piece of shit is irrelevant and ad hominem. If Hitler said 1 + 1 = 2, Hitler is right. You don’t get to deny that just because you hate the person. Shitty people can make correct statements and they can achieve things. Doesn’t matter which name we apply to it. We must be able to argue on the merits of the statement or format without sorting to personal feelings on the person, lest you become the one who is intolerant.

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    10 months ago

    Oh is that his name, steven crowder, are we trying to cancel steven crowder? whats did steven crowder do? steven crowder?

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      10 months ago

      Why is it always a strawman with you people. Crowder is on video verbally abusing and degrading his wife, among the constant garbage hate, propaganda and misinformation he spews. He is a piece of shit and I could do without seeing his face. Even if you agree with his politics, he’s a sniveling smug asshole and has been a provocateur for years. I’ll take calvin any day

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        10 months ago

        Do you not know what strawman means? There’s plenty of people in memes I don’t like, e.g. Zuckerberg, Alex Jones, etc. But I don’t demand they no longer be a meme because I don’t agree with them. Your life must be so taxing if you care so much about a silly meme format.

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          10 months ago

          It is a strawman because you are clearly underselling the problem with Crowder and misrepresenting the point. It’s not just “I don’t like him”. It seems you care a lot more about this meme format than you let on.

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            10 months ago

            That’s not a strawman. He’s on topic.

            Underselling is not an attribute of strawman. And I’m not sure what he misrepresented.

            If anything, your argument is an ad hominem. Why is verbally abusing and degrading his wife, an insult towards his character, relevant to what he said? He is a piece of shit. So? If you’re saying we should use Calvin because Crowder is piece of shit, you’re just proving @BeefDaddySupreme@lemmy.world 's point.

            P.S. I’m sure I’m gonna get mega downvoted. Arguing with logic is apparently not a thing on the internet.

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              10 months ago

              He is purposefully misrepresenting the argument being made and dismissing it. He is trivializing the actual point which is that Crowder is problematic beyond “I don’t like him”. He is dismissing a facile version of the actual problem, which is indeed a strawman. The subject is Crowder’s bad behavior (to put it mildly), which is manifested in his actions toward others as well as his other unsavory views.

              “Piece of shit” is surely ad hominem – if I was addressing Crowder’s arguments and responding to him. But I am not. So, no, in this context, it is really not ad hominem.

              My one and only point is that Crowder is a PoS (or shall we say “problematic” if that is more your speed) for many reasons, and I like the Calvin version better.

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      10 months ago

      We must cleanse reality itself from people we don’t like. If someone has so much uttered one problematic world in the course of their lives, they’re a Nazi chud, they must be killed, and their memory damned.

      Anything less and you may as well be genociding minorities.