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  • naught@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    Why is it always a strawman with you people. Crowder is on video verbally abusing and degrading his wife, among the constant garbage hate, propaganda and misinformation he spews. He is a piece of shit and I could do without seeing his face. Even if you agree with his politics, he’s a sniveling smug asshole and has been a provocateur for years. I’ll take calvin any day

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      10 months ago

      Do you not know what strawman means? There’s plenty of people in memes I don’t like, e.g. Zuckerberg, Alex Jones, etc. But I don’t demand they no longer be a meme because I don’t agree with them. Your life must be so taxing if you care so much about a silly meme format.

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        10 months ago

        It is a strawman because you are clearly underselling the problem with Crowder and misrepresenting the point. It’s not just “I don’t like him”. It seems you care a lot more about this meme format than you let on.

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          10 months ago

          That’s not a strawman. He’s on topic.

          Underselling is not an attribute of strawman. And I’m not sure what he misrepresented.

          If anything, your argument is an ad hominem. Why is verbally abusing and degrading his wife, an insult towards his character, relevant to what he said? He is a piece of shit. So? If you’re saying we should use Calvin because Crowder is piece of shit, you’re just proving @BeefDaddySupreme@lemmy.world 's point.

          P.S. I’m sure I’m gonna get mega downvoted. Arguing with logic is apparently not a thing on the internet.

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            10 months ago

            He is purposefully misrepresenting the argument being made and dismissing it. He is trivializing the actual point which is that Crowder is problematic beyond “I don’t like him”. He is dismissing a facile version of the actual problem, which is indeed a strawman. The subject is Crowder’s bad behavior (to put it mildly), which is manifested in his actions toward others as well as his other unsavory views.

            “Piece of shit” is surely ad hominem – if I was addressing Crowder’s arguments and responding to him. But I am not. So, no, in this context, it is really not ad hominem.

            My one and only point is that Crowder is a PoS (or shall we say “problematic” if that is more your speed) for many reasons, and I like the Calvin version better.