WTF was the select button actually for? I get start because it was often the button on arcades or gamepads that allowed you to choose menu options (which still works but has mostly been replaced by A).
it is part of the move from arcade cabinets to home game machines. Cabinets had the normal controls up top for the game but there were other buttons and switches for controlling the cabinet itself including access to higher level game functions like difficulty settings that weren’t meant to be exposed to the user.
When Atari made their console the user held the controller for the game but there were also several switches on the console itself providing these same higher level functions (reset and game select). Many games required you to use these higher access level switches on the console to do things like select levels or game modes because these games were getting ported from arcade cabinets or just designed by people used to developing for arcade cabinets.
nintendo moved these switches from the console to the controller, and then as game development evolved these buttons became part of the normal controller and software scheme.
Select and Start was how the Atari 2600 did things. At the time, everybody was designing in terms of having one set of controls for when you’re in the game, and a set of meta-controls for adjusting stuff outside the game. The 2600 configuration GUI was the dumbest thing in the world. You look at a grid chart of game options in the manual, and you press the Select button 35 times to get to the version that you want.
The Famicom was much more able to draw and interact with a real configuration GUI. But Nintendo’s own experience was mostly in making the arcade game “Donkey Kong”, where you pick how many players by “pressing” the insert coin button and then Start. Nintendo was selling to a market that mostly knows home games from picking up a 2600 at a bankruptcy sale. So, keeping the separate meta-game buttons and game buttons was natural at the time. Later games developed a better design language for the meta-game UI, so most game studios left the Select/Start interface behind.
(Lol now I see that TubbyCustard said it all, but better)
The start button back then was called the reset switch. Hit reset when you get to game 13, you’d say. Now where was I? Oh yeah, the game select switch was on the console, which was the style at the time.
Oh yeah, they did put “reset” on it huh? I don’t know how they ever came up with that. Everywhere else, “reset” means “device gets zeroed out to its initialization state”. The only real reset was to turn the system off and on again. On some of those Atari originals, when you press select one time too many turning it off is the fastest way to start back around again. Video Olympics I’m looking at you
WTF was the select button actually for? I get start because it was often the button on arcades or gamepads that allowed you to choose menu options (which still works but has mostly been replaced by A).
What were we supposed to be “selecting”?
On the title screen of older NES games, the select button changed what mode you played in, then you hit start to start that mode/variation.
Ahh this makes sense. I played a lot of NES as a kid but must have just never encountered it
You always played the default game mode.
It was originally for selecting different options.
You’re on the start screen and it says:
1 Player.
2 Players.
You press select to choose which one. That’s just an example, lots of NES games were like that.
it is part of the move from arcade cabinets to home game machines. Cabinets had the normal controls up top for the game but there were other buttons and switches for controlling the cabinet itself including access to higher level game functions like difficulty settings that weren’t meant to be exposed to the user.
When Atari made their console the user held the controller for the game but there were also several switches on the console itself providing these same higher level functions (reset and game select). Many games required you to use these higher access level switches on the console to do things like select levels or game modes because these games were getting ported from arcade cabinets or just designed by people used to developing for arcade cabinets.
nintendo moved these switches from the console to the controller, and then as game development evolved these buttons became part of the normal controller and software scheme.
Select and Start was how the Atari 2600 did things. At the time, everybody was designing in terms of having one set of controls for when you’re in the game, and a set of meta-controls for adjusting stuff outside the game. The 2600 configuration GUI was the dumbest thing in the world. You look at a grid chart of game options in the manual, and you press the Select button 35 times to get to the version that you want.
The Famicom was much more able to draw and interact with a real configuration GUI. But Nintendo’s own experience was mostly in making the arcade game “Donkey Kong”, where you pick how many players by “pressing” the insert coin button and then Start. Nintendo was selling to a market that mostly knows home games from picking up a 2600 at a bankruptcy sale. So, keeping the separate meta-game buttons and game buttons was natural at the time. Later games developed a better design language for the meta-game UI, so most game studios left the Select/Start interface behind.
(Lol now I see that TubbyCustard said it all, but better)
The start button back then was called the reset switch. Hit reset when you get to game 13, you’d say. Now where was I? Oh yeah, the game select switch was on the console, which was the style at the time.
Oh yeah, they did put “reset” on it huh? I don’t know how they ever came up with that. Everywhere else, “reset” means “device gets zeroed out to its initialization state”. The only real reset was to turn the system off and on again. On some of those Atari originals, when you press select one time too many turning it off is the fastest way to start back around again. Video Olympics I’m looking at you