It’s “thankless” because you are a complete tool. It’s “thankless” because you think people’s right are up for debate. Because you think it’s reasonable to tell minoritised people to simply wait, probably for the rest of their lives, for their ability to participate in society as equals.
And of course it’s not YOU paying the price, you just condescendingly demand other people pay the price. Because for you, it’s more important that the bigots are comfortable, than minorities getting to live their lives.
If you aren’t sure how else we expect to make progress, open up a damn history book. Pride was a riot.
I think literally everything is technically up for debate. Your right to exist is an example of something that should easily win over 99% of those debates. 100% of them actually if you assume any human at all has a right to exist. Do you think a majority can’t possibly arrive at the conclusion that you deserve to exist?
I’m not saying you can talk it out with everyone, but I would reserve tribalism for when all else fails because not everyone is intentionally cackling and twirling their mustache
Your right to exist is an example of something that should easily win over 99% of those debates. 100% of them actually if you assume any human at all has a right to exist.
… I’m saying that the life I’m currently living, and the lives of my friends, and materially worse precisely because there are a lot of people who do not think we deserve to exist.
You make it sound like this trivially simple process. That all we have to do is have these discussions and we’ll come out with a positive result. That we just need to go out there, and we’ll change hearts and minds, and we’ll all live happily ever after.
What world are you living in? Pull your head out of your arse.
We’ve been having these same discussions for decades at least. We’ve had genocides and fought wars over these ideas that you think we should just “change people’s minds” about.
And you keep disregarding what I’m saying, and ignoring that your approach objectively doesn’t work, and ignoring that it only serves to alienate the people you are insisting you are allied with. People like you are the reason so many minorised people hate centrists. You are the exact type of moderate MLK Jr. expressed disappointment over in his letter from a Birmingham jail.
But this interaction has been what I have come to expect from an “enlightened” centrist. It’s The Cost of Doing Business.
It’s “thankless” because you are a complete tool. It’s “thankless” because you think people’s right are up for debate. Because you think it’s reasonable to tell minoritised people to simply wait, probably for the rest of their lives, for their ability to participate in society as equals.
And of course it’s not YOU paying the price, you just condescendingly demand other people pay the price. Because for you, it’s more important that the bigots are comfortable, than minorities getting to live their lives.
If you aren’t sure how else we expect to make progress, open up a damn history book. Pride was a riot.
I think literally everything is technically up for debate. Your right to exist is an example of something that should easily win over 99% of those debates. 100% of them actually if you assume any human at all has a right to exist. Do you think a majority can’t possibly arrive at the conclusion that you deserve to exist?
I’m not saying you can talk it out with everyone, but I would reserve tribalism for when all else fails because not everyone is intentionally cackling and twirling their mustache
… I’m saying that the life I’m currently living, and the lives of my friends, and materially worse precisely because there are a lot of people who do not think we deserve to exist.
You make it sound like this trivially simple process. That all we have to do is have these discussions and we’ll come out with a positive result. That we just need to go out there, and we’ll change hearts and minds, and we’ll all live happily ever after.
What world are you living in? Pull your head out of your arse.
We’ve been having these same discussions for decades at least. We’ve had genocides and fought wars over these ideas that you think we should just “change people’s minds” about.
It sounds like you’re fighting on the front lines and I’m the guy crossing to enemy territory to reason with them. Best of luck to us both
No. I’m the one taking the abuse, and you’re the idiot telling me I shouldn’t fight back and should try talking things out instead.
Don’t flatter yourself. You aren’t my ally. You are the enemy.
I’ll accept the friendly fire because you keep missing
And you keep disregarding what I’m saying, and ignoring that your approach objectively doesn’t work, and ignoring that it only serves to alienate the people you are insisting you are allied with. People like you are the reason so many minorised people hate centrists. You are the exact type of moderate MLK Jr. expressed disappointment over in his letter from a Birmingham jail.
But this interaction has been what I have come to expect from an “enlightened” centrist. It’s The Cost of Doing Business.
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