I don’t mind reading about reddit on the reddit community, but the fact people can’t shut up in non related communities annoys me to no end, the circlejerking is insane.

It’s like, people go to asklemmy and ask “don’t you feel this is so MUCH better than reddit, people are way nicer and have higher IQ”, like dude come on.

Also another one is people bashing reddit for no reason, like a post that said that reddit doesn’t respect free speech and showed a threat lf deleted comments with no context, as if that was a bad act in itself some people talk about moderation as if it was a bad thing done over in the bad reddit

When you say that there is no technical way, you sre referring to users not being able to block instances right?

If it’s that I don’t think it is that difficult to implement, Mastodon already allows for that. And also the app “connect for lemmy” in its last update has given the option to block instances user level, I don’t really know yet if it blocks all users from that indtance from appearing or only communities as I haven’t tested it yet.

Regardless to say, if we can get the appropriate tools this definitely could be a decision for users to take, if we make it so that they can completely block any and all content coming from a big instance.

Did it do something?

Not saying you are wrong, since it is currently imposible to do here, but I don’t think the federated nature of usernames has anything yo do with if they receive a notification or bot since over at mastodon you can tag people properly and they are notified.

I might be misunderstanding something, but you are talking about a tag (same as a private note over mastodon or a profile note in discord)

At least it looks that way because of this

Add the ability to tag users, so a title i give him will be next to his name.

What this user is asking is if you can write someone’s name on a post and for that petson to receive a notification that they have been mentioned.

Jajaja I thought about that while typing it out but I still dont believe this is about EEE, Meta hasnt operated with that mindset yet in other spaces from what I know and I feel this is more that a kneejerk reaction of people not liking big corporations associating it with the idea that big corps want to kill the freedom that these spaces bring to online communities.

But I believe in the design of the fediverse and the resilience of the people, I dont think that a few platforms hoarding the big majority threaten the entirety of the fediverse, as long as people can self host their own instances since we can ensure there will always be spaces for communities like this, even in worse case scenarios like Meta just having so many features that other platforms cant compete in those terms I still feel a niche of the same people that are building this today are going to stick with it, and thus we can keep this going even if we are forced to defederate at a later date or they defederate us.

Embrace, extend and extinguish.

It was a more common tactic back in the day for tech giants to destroy competition omfor open software specifically.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

I am personally guessing it’s this option, people keep saying the idea is to EEE but I don’t think this would be the most effective use of Meta resources since they should be focusing yheir efforts at beating twitter.

But a counter is that much of that information is already public and can be scraped, they aren’t gaining much on outside meta users that they aren’t already able to do.

Best advice at the end of the day is that for social media, unless advertised on privacy, never post anything you dont want to be public. And for cases like lemmy, expect even metadata to be available for anyone interested.

I understand the wish to not interact with meta, even if its for privacy concerns.

But Im a firm believer that it is the user first who needs to make that decision, not the instance. But as I said, Lemmy being the only one of the big fedi platforms right now that doesnt have a feature for instance/domain blocking user level kinds of screws this up.

Good points. I’m sure there are other potential solutions to reduce the fear of EEE taking place here. I don’t really think EEE would work, since instances are supposed to be small and operate horizontally, it is kind of impossible to kill Lemmy as long as we understand that we need to spread out a little bit (otherwise huge instances being defederated hugely impacts the user experience)

One thing though, Mastodon does allow for blocking domains. I just tried it over Mastodon.online and also through the fedilabs app, both are working. Kbin also has that feature, wish they implemented it to Lemmy so that we can empower users to customize their experience without needing to self host.

I agree with the sentiment, I’m not a fan of preemptively blocking meta on instance level, especially when everyone was touting about how the fediverse is corporation resistant and by design it is resilient because of it’s horizontal nature, but at the first sign of threat they resort to the nuclear option.

Having said that, Lemmy specifically lacks tools on the user level, especially blocking instances. If a user doesn’t want to associate at all that is understandable (privacy concerns, not wanting to interact with hate groups, etc) but right now they can only block communities and users individually, which would make it impossible to block meta.

Lastly, I feel there are avenues that haven’t been properly explored, like forcing them to open source if they want to federate. (On the grounds of privacy concerns and security) In practice that would be the same as blocking them, but it would laid out a good foundation for new companies that want to enter the space without having to discriminate on a case by case basis.

Problem is that blocking is the nuclear option and everyone blovking before something comes out, which no one knows the danger yet like a hate speach platform would entail, goes against the spirit of the fediverse.

This wasn’t working, but then I realized you come from Kbin, I logged into Kbin and turns up you guys have this feature! It’s not on lemmy yet.

Kbin looks so appealing, but there isn’t an android app at the moment (right?) and I’m kind of growing attached to lemmy, but I probably will try to use Kbin more once I get an app for it.

I’m personally deeply skeptical, even if it’s from one of the most secure companies I would have a heart attack if I hear it’s hacked.

I personally just use pen and paper, two copies, and try to do variations or new passwords for things I care about and then one common password for useless things with no credit card info.

Have you considered making an account there (or on a non blocked lemmy instance), especially with how most apps I’ve used allow for multiple accounts and changing with two taps I don’t think there is much reason not tp make an account in the meantime.

Agree with the sentiment, I don’t need it nor is it my thing, I prefer to be the one that has to do the blocking rather than mods, but I can see why it’s there.

I hate when people try to do safe spaces and some outsider looks at it and starts staying it’s authoritarian, an echo chamber, propaganda, power hungry admins, etc. Like, dude if there is a group of people that want to be protected from certain rethoric, it’s pathetic to act with indignation just because the don’t want everyone to interact. Not every community is about fitting everyone and being neutral, as long as they are transparent with it let them have their place in peace.

Stability would be fixed if people realized they don’t have to all join the biggest two communities, which is part of the education problem we have right now for completely new users.

Although servers have really been scaling nicely regardless of those days right after the privating and then July 1st

For anyone interested, they explained the reasoning behind this particular defederation here:

https://docs.beehaw.org/docs/important-questions-decisions-and-reflections/on-defederation/

At the end of the day beehaw wants to be tightly moderated and it’s kind of imposible to properly moderate huge amounts of users at the moment with their tools so they decided to ban big instances that don’t require any verification to join

Wait you could log in to a lemmy instance from a mastodon client? Or did you talke that picture from a Mastodon account?

Having said that this is the closest thing I’ve seen to what I want, only problem being that I would need to use a Mastodon UI which doesnt have downvotes.

Also unrelated, but this is the first time I encounter an image on the comments.

Problem is I haven’t coded a single thing in my life, while I could technically made something I much prefer using something already made by someone who knows what he is doing

I will try to seaech what you say to see if I can do something quickly, but I will probably surrender if it’s not just replicating an online tutorial.

Nope, sorry. I’m not talking about private message (dm’s if you will) but instead about notes.

Notes is a little thing you write under someone’s profile so that you, privately, xan remember said person.

Tongive you an example, let’s say we interacted in a post about international politics and you mentioned you are from Zimbabwe. I could add a note to your profile saying something like “from Zimbabwe”, you could not see this note as it would be for myself to cechk if I ever interact with you again.

Many other social media has this features, in discord I use it to check when people change usernames, in mastodon just to remember people, heck even in league og legends ypu can add notes to profiles in game which I use to remember friends of friends when I play with one.