I believe it’s just going from free and open source software to free, libre and open source software

one of the most insane things I’ve ever seen posted on any site ever

which instance banned you

Absolutely insane, please elaborate why you think lemmygrad (which had fucking 300 active users over a period of 6 (six) months before the fiasco, and was founded in 2019, 3(three) years before all the propganda wars truly started in earnest) is a psyop and not hexbear which is infinitely more active and posts more about Ukraine and the war than we do (and I want the minimum amount of sourcing like I put into my comment. Like, have you ever looked at their news megathread???

Regardless, maybe you don’t understand my claim. I think you developed these opinions of hexbear after they started shitting on you, which my reasoning is that you shit on lemmygrad for something that should be equally if not more applied to hexbear if you did more than 5 minutes of looking around. My point of linking that comment is that you never displayed any disdain for hexbear on a public comment before their users started shitting on you

https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/1415580 this you?k note carefully the @hexbear.net at the top of the comm

can you source a comment shitting on hexbear before they started dunking on you? the first comment I see you shitting on them is the one I already linked https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/1431336

I can’t link directly to some because you and gaveup got comments removed which breaks the whole shit, but you respond to her comment with this shit:

https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/1426661 (why tell someone they’re better off at a place that you now supposedly always knew was as bad as lemmygrad is beyond me)

I think she responded to you with this comment:

in which case you responded with this:

she responds with this:

which is where you respond with this, at which point you still haven’t brought up hexbear’s supposed shittiness

then, hours later, you respond with this: https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/1431336

quite easy to see why I think this actually

you told me to look at older comments, and I did? accuses me of cope, sends one of the worst coping comments I have ever seen. A headcanon isnt me spending about 30 seconds looking through your comment history

I did, you posted in their games comm, made that dumbass response in this thread, started getting shit on, then you started shitting on hexbear, pretty clear timeline of events for me

sure thing, you definitely made that comment knowing what hexbear was. If you thought hexbear was really that shitty, you wouldn’t have said it’s better to be on there than on lemmygrad??? They literally post more news about the conflict than lemmygrad does, absolutely baffling behavior to say that lemmygrad is the psyop and not hexbear (it’s delusional to say it’s a psyop either way)

I fucking love comments like this from people who have no clue that hexbear is mostly ideologically alligned with lemmygrad and then get dunked on for it. Here’s a quote for you from a super scary man named Mao that you should learn to take to heart so you don’t get dunked on like this (emphasis mine):

I. NO INVESTIGATION, NO RIGHT TO SPEAK

Unless you have investigated a problem, you will be deprived of the right to speak on it. Isn’t that too harsh? Not in the least. When you have not probed into a problem, into the present facts and its past history, and know nothing of its essentials, whatever you say about it will undoubtedly be nonsense. Talking nonsense solves no problems, as everyone knows, so why is it unjust to deprive you of the right to speak? Quite a few comrades always keep their eyes shut and talk nonsense, and for a Communist that is disgraceful. How can a Communist keep his eyes shut and talk nonsense?

It won’t do!

It won’t do!

You must investigate!

You must not talk nonsense!

• Mao Zedong, Oppose Book Worship

that’s totally valid! I spend 95% of my time on lemmygrad (and now hexbear) comms anyways, so it doesn’t really matter to me other than being annoying when I have to make sure I’m not wasting my time commenting something to a user of a defederated instance

Im a communist

critical support to this thing

I really really don’t like the idea of a central committee of liberals that will defed any instances that are more radical that “vote blue no matter who!”

they can’t see this unfortunately, that instance has lemmygrad blocked

That’s fair, didn’t think of that in the moment

interest rate hikes, VCs are demanding their money back and companies are scrambling to become profitable/more profitable.

Edit: forgot to address the other point, they don’t really care about us spreading ideas as long as we don’t actually threaten their power. There is absolutely 0 threat of a socialist revolution anywhere in the west right now

? They’re just following the end game of capitalism, they’re trying to squeeze every last bit of profit out of the internet that they can, it has nothing to do with the internet “threatening” power, they already took care of that with all of the spying laws they passed when the internet started getting popular

My point is that all of this is really easy to say when you don’t actually have to control and wield power and defend your gains for the working class against reactionaries. I don’t really understand what your hangup is here, every socialist strives to learn from the mistakes of past experiments, but I would never say they weren’t legitimate attempts, which is what it seems like you’ve been implying?

No one’s gotten it right yet, but that doesn’t mean we can’t.

I used to think this way, but does this not seem the height of arrogance to you? That all the past attempts were dumb and stupid, but we are the true socialists and will get it right this time! I urge you to read this article, western socialists have a really bad problem with this kind thinking

I could show you a lot of stats from past and current socialist experiments that show how much the quality of life changed for the better for the average citizen (if you would even accept those), but I think a bigger hangup for many people is human rights.

I pose the same question I asked someone else earlier, is it better to go overboard and be too “authoritarian” in trying to protect your socialist project, or be too kind and see it torn up by the reactionary forces of the world?