Or maybe Israel is afraid anyone who spends enough time in Gaza will realize Israel are baddies too. Or maybe they expanded the Hannibal Directive to include post-capture hostages as well.

Source that they’re pets and not cattle? My farmer friend had a pet cow; they didn’t eat that cow. They ate other cows.

Alternate source since I’ve never heard of The Cradle” and have no idea if it is credible or not.

Well then they’d have been occupiers’ human shields. So while probably not the primary target, per Israeli policy they’d be perfectly legitimate military targets. Human shields and unrelated collateral damage are perfectly acceptable to the apartheid occupiers.

Hey now if that was the reason that would mean the Israelis are racist, but they’re the most moral country in the world. So surely it couldn’t that! </s>

The other one, Yassin / Yasin Rabia. Which for all I know could also be like John Smith.

Senior Hamas member Yasin Rabia, responded to the attack, saying[…]

That was the name I saw in reports about the Rafah killings.

Completely agreed. That said, this pre-October-7th article does list a person with the same name as one of the claimed targets of this attack giving statements on behalf of Hamas, so assuming they aren’t lying about having killed him, in this particular case the claims seem plausible. They attacked a Hamas member and included their preferred amount of collateral damage.

BBC is saying Israel claims this one took out two Hamas officials, so it seems like a typical “why kill few Palestinian when kill many do trick” case.

You could link to resources on Jewish opposition to Zionism.

• https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism

Until World War II, anti-Zionism was widespread among Jews for varying reasons. Orthodox Jews opposed Zionism on religious grounds, as preempting the Messiah, while many secular Jewish anti-Zionists identified more with ideals of the Enlightenment and saw Zionism as a reactionary ideology.

The whole article has a fantastic background. Basically, Zionism was considered sinful!

Thanks, I hadn’t looked into this one in more detail.

It’s tough being an informed consumer of news given that we know both Israel and Hamas lie their asses off, so it’s basically equally likely:

• Israel murdered more civilians for fun / to advance their genocide
• there’s crystal clear video showing that the rockets were launched from these tents, or by people who were living in them (which, ignoring that Israel’s theft of land and brazen mass slaughter motivating these attacks, would traditionally make this a legitimate military target). Of course even in this case, a non-terrorist/genocidal country could use means to attack that are more selective. Israel just likes to specifically use non-selective attacks to cause as much collateral damage as possible%20to%20secure%20that%20end.).

It sucks.

Ok, after some more reading about the government of Palestine, this is not a completely unreasonable position. Thanks for pointing out the lack of elections in the occupied West Bank too.

The DW documentary “Israel - Birth of a State” is very informative if you can find a way to watch it. It’s from earlier in 2023, by one of Germany’s major news outlets.

Ah yes, nobody expelled anyone from anywhere in 1948.

The Deir Yassin massacre took place on April 9, 1948, when Zionist paramilitaries attacked the village of Deir Yassin near Jerusalem, Mandatory Palestine, killing at least 107 Palestinian villagers, including women and children. … The massacre was carried out despite the village having agreed to a non-aggression pact. … was a central component of the Nakba and the 1948 Palestinian expulsion and flight.

I upvoted you, because your point about the occupied West Bank is valid, but let’s be clear: Hamas is very much a problem. They haven’t held real elections in Gaza for close to 2 decades and have been in severe violent internal conflict with their Palestinian opposition.

Israel being genocidal maniacs doesn’t mean everyone shooting rockets at them is automatically a good guy.

Maybe more genocide will make Israel safe. Genocide is the best path to peace and security, right? 🤪

Chihuahuas don’t kill so many children.

I’ve found it so far on the Daily Mail, but not on any non-tabloid sources yet.

Edited to add: here’s Barron’s

Edited again: and Reuter’s

Isn’t it just as likely Israeli bombings and assaults killed them?

Hmm, planning would require coordination. The shift A team would need to agree to stay until the shift B team expects to arrive. How could we make sure they’re on the same page?

Maybe they could do it based on the sun being at a certain spot in the sky? That might be hard on cloudy days. Maybe we could invent a device that tells us approximately where the sun would be if we could see it. We could call it “cock” like roosters that crow to wake us up…but that might make 12 year olds chuckle so how about we call it a “clock” and then fixate on the number it shows?

(If you were being sarcastic / facetious in your initial post I apologize, but I took your original post as one of the “hurr durr just ignore the clock” posts some people have been making, which completely fail to recognize why we do make ourselves slaves to the clock).