even if they don’t falsely report they can omit information

That’s why you always read the reports from all perspectives to fill in the gaps. You literally discount the “our freedom fighters” vs. “Their terrorists” speak yourself, instead of your convenient solution of appealing to mbfc (appeal to authority)

In these cases it’s better as a rule to compare the reporting with that of other sources.

It would be great if you actually lived by your own words and engaged with the topic at hand and not lazily cite mbfc.

IBM, IG Farben, Coca Cola, Hugo Boss, Volkswagen, Krupp, and many others were just doing regular business. And “privatization” definitely wasn’t something invented by the Nazis. Got it.

When you are concern trolling about a characters sexual orientation in the movie sub, then you had it coming.

If you indeed asked in good faith, then there’s a appeal process. Remember to more carefully word your questions pertaing to sexual minorities.

Western chauvinism at display

I hope you read the fine print of your article

Along with the usual mix of government mismanagement and corruption are two unexpected and devastating events: the war in Ukraine, which has sent prices of grain and oil soaring, and the U.S. Federal Reserve’s decision to raise interest rates 10 times in a row, the latest this month. That has made variable rate loans to countries suddenly much more expensive.

The Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, in a statement to the AP, disputed the notion that China is an unforgiving lender and echoed previous statements putting the blame on the Federal Reserve. It said that if it is to accede to IMF and World Bank demands to forgive a portion of its loans, so should those multilateral lenders, which it views as U.S. proxies

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China argues it has offered relief in the form of extended loan maturities and emergency loans, and as the biggest contributor to a program to temporarily suspend interest payments during the coronavirus pandemic. It also says it has forgiven 23 no-interest loans to African countries, though AidData’s Parks said such loans are mostly from two decades ago and amount to less than 5% of the total it has lent.

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In high-level talks in Washington last month, China was considering dropping its demand that the IMF and World Bank forgive loans if the two lenders would make commitments to offer grants and other help to troubled countries, according to various news reports.

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On this point, experts who have studied the issue in detail have sided with Beijing. Chinese lending has come from dozens of banks on the mainland and is far too haphazard and sloppy to be coordinated from the top.

Some poor countries struggling to repay China now find themselves stuck in a kind of loan limbo: China won’t budge in taking losses, and the IMF won’t offer low-interest loans if the money is just going to pay interest on Chinese debt.

Basically Bejing is asked to swallow the debt when Washington increases interest rates. Its also a lot more unreasonable when private and multilateral debts is a much larger part of Africa’s debt pie than bilateral debt with China is

You may as well be right. Thinking about how it’s a privately run business, It’s definitely within the realm of possibility and how it’s done in practice. It requires less time/ressources to have your journalists follow guidelines and punish them if they are not within guidlines. Reading the damn thing and haveing a lengthy approval process costs money after all…

What I’m saying is that while this is an opinion piece, it had to pass an editorial board. Since this piece obv got publish, it means that it reflects the views of the board in some regard

Which had to pass the nyt editorial board.

Just like those “terrorists” in the middle east that started attacking Americans in Iraq?

The Americans invaded Iraq, Xinjiang is part of China since the quing dynasty you. Comparing apples and oranges.

Also are you denying that terrorist attacks were not perpetrated by the Etim??

A Muslim that fights back against their colonialist oppressor. Suddenly the imperial oppressor has to get rid of those “terrorists”.

What no theory does to a mf. Also portraying communists as an outside force, where have I heard this type of rhetoric before? (It’s from facists)

Where a family fully loses contact with their father for 8+ years because he suddenly “voluntarily signed up for vocational training”.

Without context this is meaningless drivel. Provide a source

You have to choose between “the CCP is doing cultural Genocide against Muslims and they are all terrorists who need to be culturally assimilated”, or “there is nothing going on”. You can’t do both.

Cultural genocide is when you have the highest density of mosques and the preserving of Uyghur Arabic and ethnic assimilation is when you teach another language (without banning the native one)

Who is saying that they are all terrorists? And who is saying “nothing going on”?

You re saying “religious extremism and terrorist attacks are good actually and needs to be respected”

Imperialist try not to paint Muslims who they want to suppress as terrorists difficulty level impossible

I mean you did have terrorist attacks in China. Also the US delisting ETIM as an terrorist organisation tends to encourage that.

I’m not sure what the comparison to Guantamo after that is supposed to mean.

At least recite the full question being asked

What should be done then? If there are Chinese citizens who subscribe to jihadist ideologies, shouldn’t an attempt be made to change their minds? Is that brainwashing?

Or should they be considered a lost cause and sent to a Guantanamo type location?

I’m sure the Uyghur camps are better than Abu Ghraib and Guantanmo but that doesn’t mean much.

Vocational Training Centers where you learn mandarin and less radical interpretations of islam are indeed better approaches than Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo.

If there was nothing to hide they would have allowed the BBC to visit a facility of their choosing and other human rights organisations to enter and examine the area. Not allowing people to inspect only makes things look more suspicious.

Why would they let the BBC that obviously doesnt give a shit about mulims (see reporting on Palestine)? Why would they let western think thank financed NGOs in?

Most Muslim countries see no wrong doing neither https://www.axios.com/2020/10/08/un-statement-china-uighurs-xinjiang

This FT article is filled to the brim with them though and it doesn’t look faked An analysis of 2,312 mosques once featuring Islamic architecture shows that three-quarters have been modified or destroyed since 2018.

Does the FT article mention that the highest density of mosques is in Xinjiang? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mosques_in_China

2,312 aint that much in China

Ugh BE. Heres an analysis on the video tho

https://medium.com/@sunfeiyang/breaking-down-the-bbcs-visit-to-hotan-xinjiang-e284934a7aab

the base evidence checks out.

Do you mind sharing a source?

The people who manage to escape NK are a pretty good source.

I agree. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V4Hnl7J9H4

Loyal Citizens of Pyongyang A documentary on the world of defectors and South Korean Intelligence (National Intelligence Service, formerly known as the KCIA)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V4Hnl7J9H4

The originally posted documentary is soft-censored behind an age-confirmation verification

China is one of the few countries deploying UHV transmission lines to minimize the loss Brazil has a UHV grid too

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-high-voltage_electricity_transmission_in_China

https://archive.md/LWtT6

Yes your cope is just so good. Here you have a good Bloomberg article on the validity of numbers: https://archive.md/lxpMa you might learn a thing of two.

property became a replacement for the stock-marked because the Chinese stock market is very volatile and the property market was only going up that’s why some people had like 3 apartments because they could sell it again at a better price. property became a short term investment and was used like stocks that could never go down.

Yes? I’m not saying this did not happen? I’m saying that because the property market bubbled and the CPC didn’t want it to get too bad they let it burst early and introduced the “three red lines”. Now property prices are affordable again…

okay dude if you think dictatorships are better at transparency that’s not my problem.

Implying that we have the same understanding of “dictatorships”

they use the Chinese numbers in official declarations because you know its official. that’s why there are these round about ways to try and find out what the real numbers

that cognitive dissonance lol

you seem to forget that everyday people used property as investment and now there investment is worthless

don’t buy property as investment? The sinking of prices is an intended effect. Also the gvmnt forces evergrande to finish building homes tho…

its a dictatorship thing. making your economy look better then what it actually is.

I agree that the US is trying to make the economy look better than it actually is

where do you think these economists get there numbers?. its almost like they get them from the Chinese government. its like giving yourself good grades. that’s why there are these round about ways to try and find out what the real numbers are because you know dictatorships are not that transparent about how they get there numbers.

Exactly, and you believe that when you read western economists citing numbers they uncritically took them from the Chinese and didn’t do the same calculations as you did, right? Lol

Chinese government incentivized it with cheap loans that’s why these firms could even get these big debs in the first place. the bubble only burst once they put in rules to stop them from creating so much debt.

You’re so close to getting it. Communists indeed like to provide housing to people, so yes they made it attractive to build infrastructure by incentivizing their markets to do so. Since they do have their capitalists that also got greedy, they indeed intervened to make that bubble burst to make rent and property cheap for everyday people.

Russia

This is a China thread?