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    Just like those “terrorists” in the middle east that started attacking Americans in Iraq?

    And Israel also just needs to fight those “Scary Muslamic terrorists”. Nobody is being oppressed here guys! It’s just “getting rid of terrorism”.

    A Muslim that fights back against their colonialist oppressor. Suddenly the imperial oppressor has to get rid of those “terrorists”.

    Does the FT article mention that the highest density of mosques is in Xinjiang? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mosques_in_China

    You asked for evidence of the cultural erasure of Islam in China and the FT article provides it in spades. There are also videos of protests against the renovation of said mosques.

    Vocational Training Centers where you learn mandarin and less radical interpretations of islam are indeed better approaches than Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo.

    Where a family fully loses contact with their father for 8+ years because he suddenly “voluntarily signed up for vocational training”.

    You have to choose between “the CCP is doing cultural Genocide against Muslims and they are all terrorists who need to be culturally assimilated”, or “there is nothing going on”. You can’t do both.

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      Just like those “terrorists” in the middle east that started attacking Americans in Iraq?

      The Americans invaded Iraq, Xinjiang is part of China since the quing dynasty you. Comparing apples and oranges.

      Also are you denying that terrorist attacks were not perpetrated by the Etim??

      A Muslim that fights back against their colonialist oppressor. Suddenly the imperial oppressor has to get rid of those “terrorists”.

      What no theory does to a mf. Also portraying communists as an outside force, where have I heard this type of rhetoric before? (It’s from facists)

      Where a family fully loses contact with their father for 8+ years because he suddenly “voluntarily signed up for vocational training”.

      Without context this is meaningless drivel. Provide a source

      You have to choose between “the CCP is doing cultural Genocide against Muslims and they are all terrorists who need to be culturally assimilated”, or “there is nothing going on”. You can’t do both.

      Cultural genocide is when you have the highest density of mosques and the preserving of Uyghur Arabic and ethnic assimilation is when you teach another language (without banning the native one)

      Who is saying that they are all terrorists? And who is saying “nothing going on”?

      You re saying “religious extremism and terrorist attacks are good actually and needs to be respected”

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        The Americans invaded Iraq, Xinjiang is part of China since the quing dynasty you. Comparing apples and oranges.

        Someone drew some lines on a map 200 years ago when the concept of countries was invented. An entire culture should now be assimilated to match the lines on the map.

        Israel must be a legitimate country too, someone drew some lines on a map. The British playbook strikes again.

        Without context this is meaningless drivel. Provide a source

        In the video linked previously right, right after the camp tour

        Cultural genocide is when you have the highest density of mosques and the preserving of Uyghur Arabic and ethnic assimilation is when you teach another language (without banning the native one)

        The most amount of mosques according to Google is indonesia. Source for your claim?

        The articles about the mosque architectures being forcefully changed to be more “Chinese” against the will of the population does not support your claim.

        Also are you denying that terrorist attacks were not perpetrated by the Etim??

        I’m sure there was some seperatism. Which was subsequently exaggerated and hijacked as Imperalists to do push whatever agenda they want. The funniest part is how China literally did it together with America.

        How China hijacked the war on terror

        "Prior to 9/11, Chinese authorities had depicted Xinjiang as prey to only sporadic separatist violence. The Sept. 2, 2001 edition of Hong Kong’s Chinese language Ta Kung Pao newspaper quoted CCP officials in Xinjiang who stated “by no means is Xinjiang a place where violence and terrorist accidents take place very often,” and that the situation there was “better than ever in history.”

        'Within months, China’s Xinjiang narrative lurched from that of a stable region withscattered elements of “separatists’’ to that of abattleground beset by al-Qaeda-funded terror groups. The U.S. governmentendorsed that rebranding by designating a then little-known entity, the East Turkistan Islamic Movement (ETIM), as an international terror group."

        ‘Despite those inconsistencies, Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage in September 2002 officially designated ETIM a terrorist entity. The U.S. Treasury Department bolstered that allegation by attributing solely to ETIM the same terror incident data, (“over 200 acts of terrorism, resulting in at least 162 deaths and over 440 injuries”) that the Chinese government’s January 2002 White Paper had attributed to various terrorist groups.’

        'That blanket acceptance of the Chinese government’s Xinjiang terrorism narrative was nothing less than a diplomatic quid pro quo, Boucher said. “It was done to help gain China’s support for invading Iraq,” Boucher told the South China Morning Post. ’