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  • lemmyvore@feddit.nltoLinux@lemmy.mlLinux middle ground?
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    1 month ago

    Manjaro has no purpose, it’s half-assed at being arch and it’s half-assed at being stable.

    My experience with Manjaro and Fedora, OpenSUSE etc. contradicts yours. Manjaro has the best balance between stability and rolling out of the box I’ve seen.

    “Out of the box” is key here. You can tweak any distro into doing anything you want, given enough time and effort. Manjaro achieves a good balance without the user having to do anything. I remind you that I’ve tested this with non-experienced users and they have no problem using it without any admin skills (or any admin access).

    Debian testing is a rolling.

    It is not.

    AUR isn’t a problem in Manjaro because of lack of support, it’s a problem because packages there are made with Arch and 99.999% of its derivatives in mind, aka latest packages not one week old still-broken packages.

    And yet I’ve managed to install dozens of AUR packages just fine. How do you explain that?

    Matter of fact, I’ve never run into an AUR package I couldn’t install on Manjaro. What package is giving you trouble?

    Manjaro literally accidentally DDoSes the AUR every now and then because again they’re incompetent.

    You’re being confused.

    AUR had very little bandwidth to begin with and could not cope with the rise in popularity of Arch-based distros. That’s a problem that needs to be solved by the AUR repo first and foremost. Manjaro did what they could when the problem became apparent and has added caching wherever it could. Both Manjaro and Arch devs have worked together to improve this.








  • lemmyvore@feddit.nltoLinux@lemmy.mlLinux middle ground?
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    There is no other Arch-based distro that strives to achieve a “rolling-stable” release.

    Alternatives like Fedora have already been mentioned by other comments.

    Debian testing is not a rolling release. Its package update strategy is focused on becoming the next stable so the frequency ebbs and flows around stable’s release cycle.

    manjaro since it manages to be less stable than Arch specifically because of their update policy

    This is false. Their delayed updates mitigate issues in latest packages. Plasma 6 was released late but it was a lot more usable, for example.

    I mean why even be on Arch if you can’t use the AUR and have the latest packages?

    Anybody who wants Arch should use Arch. Manjaro is not Arch.

    Some of us don’t want the latest packages the instant they release, we’re fine with having them a week or a month late if it means extra stability.

    There’s nothing magical about what Manjaro is doing, it stands to reason that if you delay packages even a little some bugs will be fixed.

    Also you can use AUR on Manjaro perfectly fine, I myself have over 100 AUR packages installed. But AUR is not supported even by Arch so it’s impossible to offer any guarantees for it.

    There’s also Flatpak and some people may prefer that since it’s more reliable.


  • lemmyvore@feddit.nltoLinux@lemmy.mlLinux middle ground?
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    Manjaro has been specifically designed to have fresh packages (sourced from Arch) but to be user friendly, long term stable, and provide as many features as possible out of the box.

    It requires some compromises in order to achieve this, in particular it wants you to stick to its curated package repo and a LTS kernel and use it’s helper apps (package/kernel/driver manager) and update periodically. It won’t remain stable if you tinker with it.

    You’ll get packages slower than Arch (depending on complexity, Plasma 6 took about two months, typically it’s about two weeks) but faster than Debian stable.

    I’m running it as my main driver for gaming and work for about 5 years now and it’s been exactly what I wanted, a balanced mix of rolling and stable distro.

    I’ve also given it to family members who are not computer savvy and it’s been basically zero maintenance on my part.

    If it has one downside is that you really have to leave it alone to do its thing. In that regard it takes a special category of user to enjoy it — you have to either be an experienced user who knows to leave it alone or a very basic user who doesn’t know how to mess with it. The kind of enthusiastic Linux user who wants to tinker will make it fall apart and hate it, and they’d be happier on Arch or some of the other distros mentioned here.


  • Why do you assume they haven’t warned Mozilla in advance?

    Also, Mozilla was fully aware that what they were doing is in breach of GDPR. I find it extremely hard to believe that the makers of Firefox are not fully familiarized with it by now.

    Last but not least Mozilla is doing this for financial gain. It’s selling pur data to advertisers. Why should we excuse it? It’s a very hostile act.

    If Mozilla has hit rock bottom and has been reduced to selling our data to survive then that’s that. We’ll find another way and another FOSS browser. Accepting it is not an option.









  • Mozilla has already shipped strict privacy mode by default in recent versions of Firefox so they’re already a leg up on this.

    Google is currently trying to transition people to its own proprietary method of tracking (where the browser itself tracks you) so they would love it if third party cookies were no longer usable for that.

    Mozilla has also added a direct tracking feature (anonimized) to Firefox btw. Not sure what their agenda is.

    Websites are irrelevant, if third party cookies stop working in major browsers there’s no point in setting them anymore, they’ll be ignored.