This subsequent post of yours is more substantial in explaining your position and I generally agree with all of your points.

My post was with the absurdist position that critiquing the Biden performance around the time of the last debate made you an enemy of progressive politics. Joe had fired his last good shot in 2016. He’s a good man, a heroic fighter for his age but Trump was always going to steamroll him this time. It doesn’t matter that Joe had a cold, or that he sometimes made excellent policy points, the optics were that he was meandering and frail. It wasn’t that the debate done him in by itself - Obama sometimes had a bad debate (particularly his first one) it was that his performance on the night confirmed what was evident for months. By the time Joe started arguing with Trump about who could beat who in golf the jig was up.

Despite Trump’s own senior moments, despite his atrocious behaviour, despite his obvious lies, the feeling was Joe is doomed. And so was the most important election since last time, and that says a lot. The fact that it is not impossible that he still won’t get in again is beyond worrying. But with Harris there is a decent chance.

I hope that clears up my position? It was more a vent against all those who insisted that we ride the Joe bus over the cliff and disbelieve our own eyes while we did it.

I think that your metrics for picking covert Trumpers based upon that appaling debate is incorrect and simplistic. I watched every second of that shit show and believed that we were doomed for another 4 years of the orange turd.

Trump lied during the debate. Some estimates were that he lied upwards of 250 times in his 45 minutes at the mic. Those numbers seems off, but who knows? I don’t know the true figure, but it was insane. However, it is also not the fucking point. Trump is a serial liar. He lies to his family, he lies to the people, he lies to the courts, he lies non-stop. He would have lied if Biden performed outstandingly in the debate. He would have lied if Biden put in a middling performance. And, he lied when Biden performed badly. Are we supposed to be clutching our pearls in shock that Trump lied?

So, we can’t judge Biden’s terrible performance by the ‘other guy’. We need to judge whether Biden could win in November. And if you had of watched all 90 minutes, like I did, there was zero confidence that he could. The GOP campaign would have portrayed Biden’s lost moments a million times, over and over and over again. And they’d be stupid not to. And yes, Trump lied in the debate. Let’s try and turn the broken bus around on the seemingly new information that a serial liar lied on stage.

The proof of this was the instant jump in the polls once Harris became the candidate and the growing support since. Is the argument that all these covert GOP critics suddenly turned Dems? Or, perhaps, changing to Haris was the sensible thing to do, and perhaps, just might keep the orange turd out of the white house.

He continually tells us what he’s going to do and we are continually shocked when he does it.

I don’t think that you are picking up on my point. It’s not what you want, as an American, on migrating to another western country, it’s who that country wants to accept. It is extremely difficult to get residency in western countries. Being an American doesn’t put you in front of the queue. It’s not that we don’t like Americans, it’s just that you are no-one special in immigration terms. Same as if I wanted to immigrate to your country. I’m nobody special just because I have an Australian passport. I’d have to stand in the back of a very long line.

Best you work on dealing with Trump at the ballot box.

Well, the Trump team has been panicking in anticipation of this happening. They have already started launching law suits trying to stop it. The biggest scare they had was Biden’s age and that may have just vaporised?

That’s the dream, maybe. But other Western countries already have a professional class. We already have doctors etc. And, Australia already has niche immigration, but we can’t afford to just throw open the doors. No, you guys need to just learn to sink or swim. Or, just vote. 40 million Americans didn’t bother last time. You let the hicks and boobs just steal the country from under your feet.

No need for drastic action, just a will to change.

I don’t want to be overly offensive, but as someone who has watched the US slowly turn to chum over the decades, I’m not in favour of a mass immigration of Americans to other Western countries. How about you just stay at home and fix things. Most western countries don’t experience the same sort of weird and dangerous political problems that are now your way of life.

Just copy what others do. Dump guns as a social artifact, tone down the worst aspects of capitalism, perhaps compulsory voting, adopt a fairer taxation system, and strengthen social security. All other western countries do this to a smaller or greater extent and none of us are perfect or have any less problems in other areas.

I’m definitely not saying that other countries are better, we are not. It’s just that you definitely have particular problems and if you can’t change them, you better just build that wall.

The game was lost for me when I started getting fingerprinted at certain airports. This privilege used to be reserved for suspected criminals. Now we’re are all suspected criminals on a default setting.

What I find fascinating is the total number of numbskulls and cartoon villains, all collected under the Trump banner, and that lunatic mob may very well take government.

What’s the hell wrong with American voters?

She’s a future Supreme if ever there was one. One bendy MAGA idiot to add to the growing collection.