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People. We, the French, pulled a left-wing coalition out of our asses in less than a week and managed to “win” an election. You have months. Hope is permitted.
So we need a French immigrant to help fix the government?
Thanks for your support! And very happy to see your success in France.
It’s very true. We’ve been brainwashed into a year long campaign mostly because it generates a lot of money for various parties but prior elections have proven it’s mostly what happens in the last month that makes a difference.
Y’all are lucky you can make coalitions, though. This is more akin to your election if you only had centrists and far right running. Two party system and all that.
I think you’ll start to see a lot more excitement in the next few weeks.
I’m already noticing a lot of hype for Kamala 🤞
I mean, ok, what’s not to hype? The second Black president, but in two centuries, it would be the first woman. The right’s heads will collectively explode if she wins.
Mmmm you know this would be quite the upside
You, the French, have not been the target of a 40 year war against public education by the right wing. Americans are on average significantly less capable of rational thought because of it. Source: I am an American raised in the crippled education system I mentioned before.
It’s a bit naive to think Western Europe hasn’t been under attack from the right wing at least as long as the US has. They’ve had wars over it that never really reached US shores, and it never really went away. All of the strategies that have been used in the US were piloted and honed in Europe – look up the activities there by Manafort, Stone, Bannon, etc. all the same names who have been implementing the shit you’re seeing in the US were active in Western and Eastern Europe years before this. It’s been going on there far longer.
It’s amazing to me that people in the US haven’t been paying attention to what’s gone on there and learning from their successes.
It’s pretty naive to think there is any other country on the planet that could cause the world more damage if turned fascist. If Italy and france and the u.k. and whatever other little buttfuck euro mountain countries all decided to go fascist at once and combine, their entire military could be handled by our Coast Guard.
So you can be amused and astonished and drop your monocle or whatever the fuck is the fashion these days to feel whatever degree of delusional safety you need to not be grinding your teeth in existential dread. Because if the U.S. goes fascist, there is literally no military force in the world that can even slow us down.
It’s amazing to me that people in the US haven’t been paying attention to what’s gone on
Then you vastly overestimate the attention span of the average American.
So yes, Europe has had its struggle with the hard right for a while but NONE of you have to deal with the vicious shitbags that make up OUR far right.
So you’ve been dealing with it longer, but I GUARAN-FUCKING-TEE with all the mass shootings, the protests, the stochastic terrorism, the U.S. is dealing with a fucktonne more violence and threat than any EU nation.
It’s pretty naive to think there is any other country on the planet that could cause the world more damage if turned fascist.
I never said that, and I’m confused how you got that from my comment.
In fact, if you look through my history, you’ll see I’ve said if the US goes fascist, that will be a huge problem for the whole world.
I’m not downplaying the threat at all – quite the opposite. We’re on the same side, and I’m not sure why you’re attacking me here.
I’m tired of people making light of this, I’m tired of people being passive about this, there is only one way that considering Biden stepping down literally weeks before the election, and that is everyone, not just Americans, clearing the discussion space for people who seriously desire and possess the ability to prevent trump from being elected. Yet EVERY SINGLE online space is carpet bombed with bots and human forum manipulators who are ALLOWED to exist because they hide in the memes and the jokes, being able to muddy the discussion and break morale all under the guise of ‘it’s a prank bro’ so they are immune to being called out. It’s already been well established that Lemmy mods are just as careless and agenda driven as the reddit mods we fled here to escape, so we can’t count on THEM clearing the conversation. It has to be the users, by:
- Not memeing for clout for a few fucking weeks for one goddamn time in human history
- Downvoting to oblivion everyone who does
- Only bringing content that forwards the goal of preventing twice impeached, convicted felon ex-president 45 out of office.
But this will never happen, because the users have ‘the right to play’, and their discourse of subtle anti-Harris ‘humor’ will spread like cancer, just like the anti-Hillary meme machine of 2016, and every mod and their mother will fight for those shitheads rights to slide us further and further into fucking fascism.
I’m tired of people making light of this, I’m tired of people being passive about this,
Hey man, so am I. We’re on the same page. I’ve spent the last 10 years trying to get people to take this threat seriously. That’s why I bring up what’s happened in Europe and how the far right has been piloting their ideas there. They’ve been planning this and working out the details for decades, but they’ve also lost during some of that. My point is maybe we can look at those losses and learn some things.
Many people in the US are totally unaware of that history and haven’t seen where they’ve been stomped back down. I’m saying we can look at their losses and learn something. Chest-thumping does nothing. We should be learning.
They’ve got an advantage because whilst most democratic leaders have been trying to govern and deal with crises, they’ve been systematically testing the fences. Like velociraptors, they’ll eat everyone’s faces at the first opportunity.
You’re right – we can’t make light of this or be passive. I’ve been trying to figure out how we can collectively resist for a decade. I didn’t want Biden to step down, and even though I don’t personally like Biden, I never said that because we can’t be divided and he was better than the Nazis on the porch. But now he has and this is where we are.
I’ve been downvoted for years for saying the things you’re saying – again, I don’t get why you’re angry at me. I’ve tried to get people to see the real state of things, and I’ll not stop doing that. All I can do now is convince people to vote, because that’s the only play we have left, but I’d like even more for people to understand the real threat. And I still don’t get why you seem angry at me when we’re on the same side.
Ah yes, Europe never had to deal with such far right-wingers. We’d like borrow the term you guys came up with to describe them in case we ever face such violent fascists. What was it again?
Oh right, Nazis.
Those were mostly dead before you were born and you have likely never personally suffered at the hands of right wing violence.
My niece had her hand broken by a rancid nazi flag waving trumpfucker for having the gall to stand up for trans rights, but I’m sure the old-timey pro-nationalist graffiti you’ve have occasionally been forced to observe was just as harmful.
There are literal hard right militias training with military grade equipment on our own soil RIGHT NOW, and it is likely that most of the police force will join them.
No one you know or love is at threat more than my own family right now and I will NOT sit by quiet while greasestains like you try and marginalize this.
Not that I don’t agree with you, but do you really think the elderly edgelord forum warrior shtick is the best play? Taking a point from your own posts, is it really a good idea to post content online that might alienate potential allies? Food for thought.
If people are going to choose fascism because they were annoyed by an angry person on the internet, then this world deserves to fucking burn away to ash.
Thank you, French. You’re awesome. I was losing hope, and yet a miracle happened.
Good job.
Can someone find the “hope is kindled” gif from LoTR Return of the King? When Pipin lights the beacon of Minas Tirith. I can’t find it.
You are a wonderful human. May you find 20 bucks in a pocket of the next coat you put on
“Hope and change” is back in it to win it.
Motherfucking Obama at it again.
Lol, Obama comming back would be incredible. Is he even allowed to? He already served two terms
He’s not allowed to but people are saying Michelle could be the pick, but that would only be marginally better than Kamala
They need Gretchen, Pete, or Kelly
Jon Stewart. Someone go pull him and make him do it. There’s no one better to take down Trump.
He’d be miserable the whole time, but we’d all be better off. Please Jon!
I mean I’d love it and I’m going back and forth on this comment. His biggest negative is those who lean right will see him exactly as he is “a New York Jew”
That said, who better to trounce Trump and humiliate his ass? I think the only thing better would be Michelle Obama. Trump would lose his absolute shit debating and/or losing to a woman let alone a black woman.
Watch that fucker drop the N bomb in a debate against her lol
A 2-woman ticket would never work. It’s going to be very dicey having a woman leading the ticket with a man as VP, given how sexist the US electorate is.
What’s sexist is going on and on about how a woman is unelectable.
Yes, reality is sexist. But, you can’t just live in a fantasy land.
A friend of mine was running a restaurant, and before a major business meeting, her 2nd said that he should do all the talking because the other party was sexist and wouldn’t listen to a woman.
She fired his ass, rightfully. That is not what progress looks like. Step up and fight against sexism, don’t concede to that shit.
Viva la France
Props to the French voters for shutting out the Rally.
Most of the French voters.
Damn good job in the second round.
Thank you
A “long” election campaign in the UK is 6 weeks. In 1992 they had one that was just 30 days.
Months is plenty of time, especially in the modern world. Maybe 250 years ago it was necessary to campaign for months on end so that the candidate could personally travel by train to every state. But, with modern media (both traditional and social), there’s no real reason for campaigns to be as long as they are. The only reason they’re this long is that the thought is that the earlier you start campaigning, the better. So, each side keeps starting earlier and earlier, making it effectively into a neverending campaign cycle.
Lord have merci
Well spoken.
A few months in politics is an eternity. Yes, things are chaotic right now, but this is short term. We can unify after this. And we can win.
It’s a binary choice in the US presidential election, that isn’t even based on the popular vote.
The regime provides two choices, people do a circle jerk, regime gets their candidate.
Win win!
Unless you work for money
Why’d you put “win” in quotes?
Because we only have a relative majority and now Macron is teaming up with the hard right (not the far right, the other right right that is not center right… Yeah, too much right is wrong) to deprive us of any path to government. Shit sucks. But it could have sucked way harder.
It’s also a strategic moderate move to keep the hard right from merging with Reform.
I’m hoping the left wing parties aren’t locked out and still able to get progress made.
Cuddling up to the hard right might look like a strategical move but it never works. Normalising them only shifts the discussion further to the right. And let’s face it… in this post-factual time where all that matters is the narratives, giving them a platform will only help to brain-wash more people into believing right-wing fake-solutions to actual problems.
We don’t really do coalitions here. Our voting system doesn’t allow for it.
It does happen within Congress itself though, when different sects of the two parties cross the aisle to join with the other party on certain issues. But since Congress doesn’t elect a prime minister, it doesn’t happen for the presidency.
I know. You’re missing my point. :)
My point wasn’t the coalition. My point was that we had 21 days to cobble something together and not only did we do it, we managed to win with it. It’s not about the coalition, it’s about building a campaign. You have months to do so.
And you’re about to say that Trump had way longer to do so. Yes. So did the far right in our country, which barely even campaigned because all of the media were doing so on their behalf for the last two years and we still managed to outnumber them.
Trust me, my faith in the Democrats is barely existent. But still, I think it can be done.
America has no left wing. The dems have now handed Trump the win since its way too late to change the candidate and Harris is completely invisible
I’ll say just one thing:
Every single one of you assholes who wouldn’t shut up about him stepping down since the dude missed the toilet bowl fifty years ago after a particularly wild night out better sure as fuck step up now that Old Joe has stepped down.
A sitting god damned President of the United States has stepped aside less than half a year before reelection. Make no mistake: The man swallowed his pride and ego HARD to make this decision. Let’s honor that by creating a wall of votes so god. damned. thick. Riley Reid would gasp.
Am one of those “assholes”. Kamala was far from my favorite candidate in 2020, but I just donated a hefty (for me) chunk of change and will be volunteering. I didn’t need perfection, just a feasible path to victory in November and now we have it. I’m so pumped right now, project 2025 no longer looks like an inevitability. LFG!
Riley Reid: Oh god you’re going to make me vote
I’m voting at haaaaarrd
People are now saying Trump is winning because Joe step down. Like the fuck you guys want lmao
You gave them exactly what they wanted, are you surprised?
This is how you lose swing states. Troll farms couldn’t have done it better. Now let’s see how long before first smeer campaign pops up…
I’ll be there in November!
Side note, maybe we can have Riley Reid for the candidate?
Unironically better candidate.
Younger, healthier, charismatic, great on camera, focused in stressful situations. Also, she’ll be great at dealing with congress because she is so experienced with dicks and assholes.
“I’m Riley Reid and I (moans) approve this big, fat, thick message”
I respect Biden, but who cares he swallowed his pride? He’s a public servant, his job is literally to do what’s best for the public.
Should anyone care about his pride and ego?
I am one of those assholes. Once the DNC formally endorses a candidate I’ll donate to their campaign.
Lmao
It took pretty much the entire Democratic party calling for him to step down before he would.
He came out and said multiple times that he wasn’t going anywhere. He was forced out.
He came out and said multiple times that he wasn’t going anywhere
This was always going to be one of those things where “despite saying 8 hours ago that he was committed to the election and was not going to drop out, he has now dropped out”. You’re never going to see someone in these situations say “eh might drop out, not sure”
You see it in sports all the time. “I’m dedicated to finding a good contract to stay in this city” then they sign a new contract with a new team.
So what.
The point is, it’s time to unite behind a candidate and look like we want to win.
Didn’t he also get Covid last week?
Wouldn’t surprise me if that’s what sealed the deal for him.
I mean the deadlines are closing and having to fight to even stay in the race while president of the U.S. and recovering from an illness is not something anyone looks forward to.
Frankly I hope he can catch a break for a bit, and enjoy a pension after all this is over.
That’s what was said, but it wouldn’t surprise me if that was just cover to plan and execute this maneuver
I will vote for whoever the Dems put up, as I would have voted for BIden. It’s fantastic that he stepped down, cause he is clearly unfit to serve. He should probably step down from the Presidency right now, asshole.
* for whomever
It’s the object of the preposition, asshole. Git gud.
It should be the objective case because it’s an object of the verb “put up”, not because it heads the phrase “whomever the dems put up”. Who/whom has to do with its role in its own phrase, not the larger sentence/clause. Contrast “I will vote for whoever wins the dem nomination.”
Truly a clarion call for unity.
Ironically she’s also known to have raped someone and didn’t get charged.
Well guys… Have you seen Trump’s mental decline since he last ran?! How old is he now?
Surely nobody would be dumb enough to vote someone that old into office now… That is… What we have been saying? Right guys?
I don’t understand you people in this thread.
Ever since the debate, people have been calling for Joe Biden to step down from the presidential race and give the place to someone else.
Now I read the comments and everyone is criticizing and accusing the Democrats of not knowing what they’re doing? Are you for real? They’re doing EXACTLY what people have been asking for. They’re doing EXACTLY what needs to be done if they want to win.
Fucking hell you guys, make up your fucking mind.
Sincerely,
A Canadian with severe anxiety over your next presidential election.
Oh boy, I can’t wait for armchair pundits who were calling for Joe to step down to now turn around and start to nitpick Harris as if that wasn’t going to be the obvious successor.
I’m 100% behind Harris or anyone who gets the Dem nom. Trump must be stopped.
This is still a battle for America’s soul. Are we going to accept the first female president or the first convicted felon president? I sure hope the left turns out for this one, even if they aren’t super stoked about it, because we might never recover from another Trump disaster.
I don’t prefer Harris, but am 100% fine with her. Any D 2024. Fuck the republican traitor filth.
I’m not super stoked about her, and I’ll crawl across 5 states filled with broken glass to get back home and vote for her.
She’s a very bland candidate, but at least she’s not 80 and fading.
Whether that’s enough to get people up off their arses and into voting booths, I don’t know.
You really need somebody that’s going to invigorate the centre and left, the way Trump excites the right. Dyed in the wool Dems don’t care who the candidate is, they’d have been happy with Biden’s corpse. The issue is there’s not a lot of time left for experimentation in finding one.
A female candidate can put Roe v Wade in the limelight the entire campaign, and that’s a really easy winning message (based on all the special elections since it was overturned)
The Roe v. Wade issue is a strong strategy, and I look forward to her bringing it up continuously.
“I’ve got conviction, Trump’s got convictions” seems like a good slogan.
There’s a shitload of time. We’ve been conditioned to think it takes 2 years to run a presidential campaign. Nonsense.
It’s going to be so crazy now; it’ll feel like years. Just wait and see.
It’s not just pundits, Nancy Pelosi wants Harris off the ticket. I already donated to her campaign and called my reps to let them know that’s a bad idea.
Harris might be a disaster. I’ve no problem with her whatsoever personally, but she has no charm and zero leadership skill. I wish these things didn’t matter but they do.
Yep. She gets my vote as a living, breathing person that seems healthy enough. I’m not excited to vote for her, and I’m really concerned about our chances with her, but she’s not Trump and automatically gets my vote assuming she gets the nomination.
I’ve no problem with her whatsoever personally
Oh, I think you do.
No I actually don’t. I am very worried that Trump will win because she’s a little bland. IMO, she is more progressive than Biden and likely to make better decisions. I’m just stressing that she might be a little… bland for the American horde. They tend to expect an entertainer.
You don’t think leadership skill should matter in a President…?
For an American president? I mean, yes, hence my complaint. But to be clear, that’s not something the presidential job of making good decisions technically requires, except insofar as electing an American politician has become tantamount to choosing a babysitter for the masses.
She’s an improvement and is sufficient to beat Trump.
I’m not going to discourage party leadership when they’re actually listening for once.
and this is exactly why Trumps exist
one party is actively tearing down society and the other is complacent and the voters eat it up
Name literally one thing democrats are complacent on and don’t actively want to reform.
Support for genocide in Israel seems like the obvious one
minimum wage stuck $7.25
cannabis legalization stalled decades ago
women’s rights
police reform
https://www.courthousenews.com/democrats-push-for-17-minimum-wage-by-2028/
Democrats push for $17 minimum wage
https://apnews.com/article/marijuana-biden-dea-criminal-justice-pot-f833a8dae6ceb31a8658a5d65832a3b8
DEA rescheduling marijuana
… Are you serious about the women’s rights part? Republicans overturned Roe and they’ve lost every election with abortion rights on the ballot since.
You can look up the DeMoNcRaT cities that have started to send crisis response teams instead of cops for certain calls. https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/state-policing-reforms-george-floyds-murder
You came with the receipts and they shut up.
Thank you.
The biggest hot-topic issue this election should have been abortion (and by extension, SCOTUS). But the discussion got side-tracked by all this talk of old age. The debate just reinforced the narrative and concern with Biden. They would have hammered him over and over, with Trump bragging about how quickly he recovered from an injury.
Now, we have:
- A sittingVP with actual Whitehouse experience, who can take credit for all the economic policies under Biden. Also, a former Senator.
- A prosecutor and former Attorney General vs a convicted felon.
- The age issue disappears (in fact, it now becomes a liability against Trump).
- A woman vs the guy who bragged about killing Roe v. Wade.
- Future of SCOTUS.
If she just keeps talking about those topics non-stop, she’ll do fine.
The only thing better would have been if Biden had resigned to let people see her in the actual role, but this works. She picks a mid-westerner as VP who can stand up to Vance and it’s a whole new ballgame.
I’m actually stoked about this race again.
Unfortunately we also have:
- A non-white candidate
- A non-male candidate
- A very sexist and racist electorate, who basically voted Trump in because they were so upset by the election of Barack Hussein Obama
It remains to be seen if the racists and sexists will prevail.
Having said that, this might energize women who are on the fence and want to see the first female president. It might energize black voters. It will almost certainly energize Indian voters, possibly even all South-Asian voters. It will definitely energize voters who were worried about the age of the candidates. And now, suddenly, Trump has to go on the defensive about his age.
As long as all the democrats fall in line and push for Kamala, it might go really well. If Hillary Clinton goes out and works for Kamala, it could energize the people who are still angry about her loss, and can now channel that into the new option for a first female president. If Biden campaigns for her, it could reassure all the people who just wanted some stability.
OTOH, if there is infighting, and people trying to take her down so that they can become the nominee, then that could be trouble too.
The racists, as OP mentioned, would have voted for Trump regardless. The Dems need to convince the moderate, undecided voters
How many people, realistically, would vote for a white male Democrat but NOT a non-white female?
People are talking about this, but I don’t know who this voter is. The hard line racists and sexists were not moderates, they’re all already Republican.
There are far more democrats that were against Biden because of his age than would be against Harris as a woman. This is a net gain. Fuck the people who won’t vote for her along gender or racial lines. I don’t want to try and appease them.
Give people something to vote FOR rather than vote against.
Both a black guy and a woman have won the popular vote before.
I think the massive majority of Biden voters will take any democrat over trump,.and we also have the opportunity to shed some of the “sins” of the Biden admin, in the sense that Harris can say “i saw how it was first hand, but here’s how I’d change it if I were in charge.”
The only thing better would have been if Biden had resigned to let people see her in the actual role, but this works.
I used to be an advocate for this, until I realized that in this political environment, whoever President Harris picks for VP would need both House and Senate approval, and this House will take a page from Mitch’s book and simply not bother. So you would have your first female and mixed-race President, in a country full of armed bigots, and if they get to her, Mike Johnson becomes President and can start Project 2025 early.
Could we tap Liz Cheney to be our Vance wrangler?
Not a candidate, no, KH will still need a VP.
I just mean a wrangler. Someone who’s sole purpose is to disrupt JD Vance anyway possible…
Maybe she could:
- Follow JD around, constantly whispering that she’s going to grab him by his pussy
- Send him noose shaped flowers and cakes to decorate his new office
- Pay Clint Howard to randomly walk by Vance every day & accuse him of ruining his brother’s directing career
- Leave a conspicuous trail of classified documents behind him
- Lewdly suggest she would have her relations with her attractive child, on camera
- Smear fecal matter on his desk & let Pelosi call of his efforts a bowl of poopoo
- Constantly make contact & remind JD who her father is.
I think Liz Cheney would be awesome at all of these things. As long as we don’t “elect” her, what could go wrong?
As entertaining as the Cheney vs Vance debate would be, she voted an awful lot to support Trump policies. Guessing she’s happy to wait for the Trump collapse, then offer herself up as a return to a more traditional GOP.
That’s a really intelligent point… much more intelligent than mine…
Guess all this craziness has left me with the heebie-jeebies.
I’d want Sherrod Brown as the vp if we wouldn’t lose a dem in the senate for it. It would be hilarious if both vp picks were both sitting senators from Ohio. And he’d actually be perfect for her.
I would love for Kamala Harris to be more charismatic and less ineffectual than she currently is, I’ll vote for whoever is not Trump. Now is the perfect opportunity to reinvigorate the campaign and turn everything upside down, but I’m not optimistic. They’ll probably trot out Hillary Clinton again if it’s not Harris, and it’ll be a replay of 2016.
nothing got sidetracked it just was never dealt with or talked about in a meaningful discussion or in any way in the last fifty years of Biden’s career
just like the minimum wage is not enough to cover the astronomical costs of food and housing and was not even brought up during the debate
yes lets support a prosecutor that represents the police who want their boots shined with our tongues
Pro-choice is poison at the General election. It does well as a ballot initiative, but the reality is that very few pro-choice moderates and right-leaning people will change their vote over the issue, whereas pro-lifers are far and away the strongest single-issue voting group.
If Harris and Trump were identical in every way except their stance on abortion, how many Dem voters would flip for Trump in order to vote pro-choice? Would you?
Because millions of people who are otherwise liberal-leaning vote based on their pro-lifer position.
The biggest reason Dems got a Roe boost in 2022 was pro-lifer voters who didn’t feel the need to vote Republican because they’d won and could focus on other issues. But running a campaign based on restoring Roe undoes that bump.
Now you have someone who has not been seen since she was elected VP with no time at all to prepare her for a presedential run. You will get Trump again because the dems are so fucking stupid and stabbed Biden in the back this late.
That’s why I’m never gonna cancel my USA subscription. Your shows always have a crazy twist right before the season finale.
Jokes aside: Not a single person who even considers voting for Trump is worth any hassle. Their vote is a coin flip on fucking acid. The dems should try to animate the lazy nonvoting pricks.
Your assessment is spot on. I am forever shocked that people seem to think there are voters on the fence between trump and anyone else
Don’t disparage acid like that, every psychedelic user I know is left wing
It’s pretty telling how you can meme about the most dangerous nation on the planet slipping into fascism. Of course you don’t care now because it isn’t happening in your city. I guaran-fucking-tee if drumpf gets re-elected, it will be IN your city by next year. So laugh it up.
As a trans woman in a red state I can meme, I have to. If I stop joking I’m gonna fall into despair lol
I’m not sure what that has to do with you helping usher in fascism but you can make up whatever justification you want to help you sleep better, just accept that, especially for you, the world will be SIGNIFICANTLY worse when twice impeached, convicted felon, probably pedophile and certain fascist cheetolini gets memed into office.
I suggest a better cope than actively damaging morale. Something offline.
No fucking shit. I joke but I also make damn clear what the options are. Survival or not. I’ll mock my own side but I’ll also shame the hell out of any non democratic voter this year. You may not see the latter as often because I do that in person.
Honestly I suspect you’re damaging the cause more than me at the moment. The guy who really fucked up here imo won’t be President near year. It’s not on Harris regardless of my thoughts on the lady (that she’s a better leader than speaker and that I wish we could get someone like Senator Brown or Representative Ocasio-Cortez
I don’t think anyone means to disparage the very real concerns facing USians, and I think non-USians recognize this affects every one of us regardless of country (I recently made a comment regarding this exactly).
I think that commenter was just using humour because it’s quite overwhelming that within a week-- Trump’s been shot at and Biden is stepping aside.
If us outsiders are feeling this, then I imagine it is so much worse for USians. I am empathetic to how stressful this must be, and hope for a candidate who annhilates Trump and leads your country towards healing.
Being humorous about overwhelming things is how the fuck cheetolini got his first term.
How about we stop being humorous and acknowledge that the U.S. going fascist is literally the worst thing that could happen to the planet since the last meteor-driven mass extinction.
i don’t mind the humor, because good lord it’s so damn depressing otherwise.
I absolutely DO mind the humor because I am acutely aware of how it kills activism.
I know how dangerous it is because I saw it cripple an entire generation through apathy, sarcasm, and ‘being above it’. I saw the groundwork of today’s fascist rise it the absolute detachment and knee-jerk memery that everyone of my generation responded to literally any threat with.
And it made us (GenX) absolutely irrelevant in politics and human rights to this fucking day.
So, no, humor isn’t harmless, and it isn’t a good cope, but it’s great for convincing everyone to do nothing but doomscroll and meme.
Which is exactly what the fascists want us to do.
So you find it acceptable throw a tantrum about humor and memes while tossing around terms like “cheetolini” and “drumpf”? Do you see the inherent lack of consistency involved?
I don’t take kindly to your marginalizing rhetoric, asshole.
And I don’t give convict 45 any more SEO than he already gets
The president of the United States affects the rest of the world but we don’t have a say in who it is, so I don’t know what you expect from us foreigners? Perhaps my country which is a staunch US ally and a fraction of the size should launch a coup?
Sort your shit out, America, because nobody is in a position to do it for you. We’re making jokes because it seems unreal that things have gotten this far and because there is no real way for us to influence US domestic politics.
Ok, enjoy sitting passively and watching and memeing as literally the greatest existential threat to human freedom slowly rises.
What you non-Americans can do: Stop meming, clear the air, show solidarity.
But no, just like history shows us:
When the world has a problem, America has a problem
When America has a problem, America has a problem.
I’m sure we can just sort this out real quick for you so you can go back to eurovision or living in buildings more than a hundred years old. I’m sure we’ll be fine.
I respect the decision and it means he goes out on top. It must have been a difficult decision, but he was one of the better presidents (I see an historian pol ranking him 14th best) and I believe history will remember him even better. I wish Joe Biden all the best in retirement.
Now comes the hard part. How do we avoid him having to say “I told you so”? How do we avoid repeating the disaster of the worst ranked President in history?
Let’s fucking do this. Let’s smash these fascist fuckwits.
I know people will say this is bad, a new campaign will be rushed, etc. But I think we all know Biden was an excuse for many not to vote, or worse, to vote for Trump. Withdrawing will be his legacy when we win, not his failing.
Thank you President Biden. You are a hero.
This whole Biden stepping down vs Trump saga is a metaphor for the American baby boomer generation’s approaches to their own reckoning of their old age and their reluctance to pass down the torch to another generation.
This decision really raises my opinion of Biden so much. God damn do I love that man, he is truly a great person who dedicated his life to serve his country, literally. He honestly had a great term given the circumstances, and the only thing he probably should have done differently is to not run for reelection to begin with. But he seemed to genuinely believe he could win and stave off Trump. Now that that seemed impossible, he makes a very courageous decision that a lot of people probably wouldn’t have made and puts the country ahead of his ego. Lots of respect from me, and I hope this reinvigorates the democratic base and makes the future brighter for all of us.
President Biden is doing what Justice Ginsburg couldn’t do and look what that accomplished.
I know you’re from Europe but you should really read up on Biden’s long record of conservative and corporatist stances and policies. He literally wrote the legislation that trapped all future US generations in indentured student loan servitude in exchange for $250,000 from MBNA the following year. Then, he had the balls to pretend his means tested student loan forgiveness would fix the issue he created while he STILL fights student loan holders in court.
He was one of the most conservative, racist, corrupt, right wing Democrats there ever was. Let’s not rewrite his awful track record.
come up for air you are choking on it
That’s fine, the choking helps me show just how much I appreciate him doing this.
What, did you think I was going to take this an insult? “Oh no he’s saying I’m sucking another man’s penis!”
Nah. Biden just showed he’s putting the country over his ego. That’s not something Trump would’ve ever done, and very few politicians at all would do this. I’m going to keep guzzling for as long as I damn please, thank you very much.
Coming from maga throatpie that’s hilarious
As a European progressive I obviously don’t worship Biden, but I have really come to respect him and he has been nothing but a class act throughout his whole term. He is stepping down and handing over the reins, now is as good a time as ever to recognize him as a - quite surprisingly honestly - good president.
Yeah the Biden dick riding is fucking crazy.
It’s not like he graciously stepped down. It took almost the entire DNC calling for him to step down before he would.
Not to mention that he’s been funding a genocide, and did practically nothing to address the biggest issue of our lives, which is climate change.
Now that Biden doesn’t care about reelection, what kind of “Official acts” might he do?
Now they have a new excuse of not doing anything important or interesting so they don’t “taint” Harris.
The best kind
I got the email at work this afternoon, and boy did I let out a sigh, not so much in relief, but in hope. Good for you for finishing your presidency on top, Biden. I hope he, Harris, and their staff are seeing the (general) commendation in communities like this. I really hope we can rally people to get behind Harris; I think it will be so much less of an uphill battle now to get the indifferent and the disillusioned and the “but they’re both old” voters out there with confidence.
I was holding back on donating, but I want to pitch in now. Does anyone know if you can donate as an employee of a federal contractor (i.e. I don’t hold the contract or a subcontract, I get paid by the contractor like any other employee, but my badge does say “contractor”). I can’t find a confirmatory answer online, and I don’t want to make a compromising donation since “not a federal contractor” is a requirement in the ActBlue fine print.
I’m nervous. Biden was a flawed candidate, but he already beat Trump once and had the incumbent advantage. Harris was a very unpopular candidate in 2020, and it’s unknown if any other candidate will do better against Trump. But since Biden chose to do this, there’s no doubt he made the right decision for him.
