• Guydht@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      18
      arrow-down
      27
      ·
      1 year ago

      If Israel were nazis, you wouldn’t hear cries of civilians injured, because 2 million would’ve been wiped out.

      No. Israel is really not Nazi Germany, who killed its own citizens out of racism. Israel is fighting aggressive neighbors who will do anything to kill them. Don’t confuse the two, it’s a dangerous comparison since it’s so wrong.

      • PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        20
        arrow-down
        6
        ·
        1 year ago

        Isreal has been slowly killing these people for over 50 years. They have also been killing Palestinian, American and Canadian reporters who report on it as well.

        • Guydht@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          When reporters are going into active warzones, they get killed. Big shock!

          And Palestinian’s deaths are just as much on the hands of Hamas as they are on the hands of Israel. Since day 1 Hamas’s creed was annihilating Israel and its citizens, and they were true on those words. Do you expect Israel to just do nothing and let them grow even larger than what they’re already are? Do Israelis deserve no safety? Israel prioritizes its citizens’ safety above that of Gazans, and no one in the world can fault them for that, since every other single state in the world would do the same.

    • Contend6248@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      27
      ·
      1 year ago

      What keeps people from fleeing? They are resisting and helping a terror regime.

      There it is.

      • TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        15
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        I’m going to assume you are arguing in good faith here. It’s not that simple at all. There are a myriad of reasons why they can’t leave.

        For one, Hamas won’t let them. The innocent civilians are being used as meat shields for Hamas bases. Hamas is known to guard the borders.

        They also don’t have the supplies or energy at this point to make the trip. Car travel isn’t possible with everything being bombed out right now. Gaza is not big and the warzone covers the whole area it’s not safe for these people to go outside. They are hunkered down wherever they can find. Nobody is offering to come rescue them, and even if some group wanted to, they couldn’t without putting their own lives at risk from attacks or crossfire from Hamas and Israel.

        I could go on, but instead I’ll just post this article from the Washington post that has a good breakdown.

      • spirinolas@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        1 year ago

        Because the moment they leave they will not be allowed back. Israel will take the land and settle it with Israelis.

    • gr8b8m8@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      28
      arrow-down
      42
      ·
      1 year ago

      Israel is a democracy ranked by the Economist to be more democratic than the US. All Israeli citizens have the same rights even the Israeli muslim citizens. In contrast every other country in the region discriminates against jews. Most do not let jews enter the country and have a history of previously expulsing jews. This is literally the definition of being a nazi state.

      • ???@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        28
        arrow-down
        10
        ·
        1 year ago

        Ah yes that’s why Israel is now putting all those “citizens” in prison, raiding their homes at night, allowing settlers to hurt them, allowing politicians in the Knesset to say racist things to them. Totes a democracy ROFL

        These countries have no problems with Jewish people. They don’t allow Israeli’s to enter.

        • gr8b8m8@feddit.de
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          12
          ·
          1 year ago

          No of your points can be proven, while it is easy to prove Israel is a democracy where all citizens have the same rights and all human rights inside her borders are granted.

          For example religious freedom (all religions can be practiced in Israel, in contrast to many neighboring states where Islam is the only religion) or the freedom of assembly such as the recent mass protest against the government in Israel

        • Shadywack@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          18
          ·
          1 year ago

          The pro terrorist and false statements here sure seem prevalent. Have a downvote.

            • Shadywack@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              3
              ·
              1 year ago

              I have two points and they’re easily proven and well documented. Israel is a fascist apartheid state.

              Ahh yes, “Netanyahu is the supreme leader” and the IDF militant trope. You failed to acknowledge the other point made by another commenter that religious freedom in Israel is far greater than any of its neighbors. You also fail to mention that Arabs who aren’t violent enjoy the same rights and freedoms as other citizens. There’s also the internal Israeli unrest about the intelligence failures that allowed the Oct 7th Hamas attack.

              I’m still siding with Israel in the extermination of Hamas, and the rest of the world can wring their hands all they want. Pro terrorism interference should not deter Israel from doing what they need to do, and that’s finish off Hamas.

              • coffee_poops@sh.itjust.works
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                Arabs who aren’t violent enjoy the same rights and freedoms as other citizens

                That’s great for those that feel like they want to trade their sovereignty and nationality to a foreign power that’s slowly eradicating your people…

      • zephyreks@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        6
        ·
        1 year ago

        Ranked higher than a country where many believe there to only be one valid party and that if the other party gains power that the entire democratic system will collapse and bring Armageddon?

        That’s who you’re comparing against?

        • gr8b8m8@feddit.de
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          10
          arrow-down
          10
          ·
          1 year ago

          The Economist also ranks Israel higher than Italy, India, Belgium, Poland or Croatia. Israel is top 29 in the democracy index.

      • Auli@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        I can understand why they are probably afraid of being colonized and taken over.