What are some things that you enjoy or dislike about the Fediverse so far.
It’s good but the lack of people and interaction sucks. One of my favourite things about Reddit is reading the comments and discussions, but there’s almost none of that here.
@souma It’s one thing that I am trying to fix on my part where I try to make a few posts a day and interact with as many people as possible in my spare time. I do hope that over time, especially when places like Reddit screw people over, people will start to move across to the Fediverse and enjoy their time on here and stick around.
Same here, I post the cool things that I see on other platforms and about the topics I know more about. We’re still seeing more people hop over it’s just a slow process.
I also think we’re at the point where we can start working with individual people/communities/organizations to figure out what they need and help them shift over. I’m trying that with some others for a few communities, but it’s just a slow process (most often because it seems like a lot of mods on the subreddits have straight up disappeared over the past few months).
You need to be the comments and discussions.
I certainly try!
I’ve been thinking about that too but realised, reading loads of messages saying nothing is not as good as a few small conversations.
Although some of my interests haven’t made it over here yet
My problem with that is I’m incredibly unoriginal and the lame joke I think of is usually the top comment, so I don’t have anything meaningful to add to the conversation.
Yeah I experience that quite a bit more than I care to admit also haha
I tried commenting a bunch of times but always got “log in first” Luckily I don’t have that problem on mastodon, where I have a ton of interactions and people are way way friendlier than on any social media platform I’ve used before
Is that because you end up on communities on other instances? There are extensions that help with that, you can open the post on your home instance: !instance_assistant@lemmy.ca
If you’re on mobile it should be handled automatically for most apps
I think it was a problem with authorization. I was already logged in, butt wasn’t verified, of that makes sense. Basically logging out and back in did the trick at some point (and a lot of help from the instance owner)
I usually really like seeing the little number pop up when I get a response on my comment, instead of dreading it’s someone trying to pick an internet fight. People are nice here. (Usually)
But it needs more original content, that’s how Lemmy and the entire fediverse can grow.
Same! I realized not long ago that I don’t actually dread the notifications anymore. I used to get such anxiety over the red envelope that I had already started thinking I was due for a change before the blackout happened.
Here is a notification for you:
Keep on being awesome!
Okay, I’ll bite
First off, I totally agree! People are my much nicer here and the little notification is often a nice thing.
So I read a bit of your post history. I’m not the -most- socially aware but I’m assuming sans-proof you’re not actually Margot Robbie. So like … Why? Is it a promo thing? Weird quirk? Actually an actor doing “normal people stuff”? Do you actually use Arch(why?)?
Is it a promo thing?
I did do my movie promo here in July before the SAG-AFTRA strike started. (it’s all on my lemmy.world account) Then the movie did amazingly well at the box office, I thought maybe I found the hidden secret to social media success, so now I wanted to see if I can shitpost my way into finally getting an Oscar this year.
Do you actually use Arch(why?)?
A few years ago, I thought it would be funny if I learned how to use Linux and tell people that “I use Arch by the way” like the meme, so I spend a couple of hours and installed Arch an old laptop (it’s really not that hard, you just follow the directions on the wiki!), then nobody got the joke, so now I have this Arch laptop to play around with and type
sudo pacman -Syuin occasionally.I had no idea who Margot Robbie was so I looked it up in Google images
Guys, it’s that chick from Eight Out Of Ten Cats Does Countdown
Wouldn’t bother, that Joe Wilkinson’s been there, that’ll be minging
I think you have me confused with someone else.
Also, you shouldn’t bother, I’m married.
I really hope you can actually shitpost your way into an Oscar and thanks for the reply potential-future-Oscar-winner-Margo-Robbie. I liked Barbie!
That’s amazing, and the best reason I’ve heard to start using Arch. I kinda like that no one even gets it, and I’m always a tiny bit sad that package manager doesn’t make their loading bars pacman eating dots
No dude it’s really her
Of course I am, why would esteemed Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Elise Robbie ever lie to you over the Internet?
@MargotRobbie Yes original content and growing smaller communities are most likely ways to grow it further and we can only hope that other places like Reddit, Instagram, X / Twitter just get to the point the users do actually give up and look for something new / better.
Everyone on the fediverse is a white male tech nerd. Obviously, not everyone, but it really feels that way. There is a distinct lack of voices from outside that demographic, and it’s super obvious. Reddit had this, too, but it’s way worse here.
It’ll get better in that regard, but it’ll take a decade to get there.
Everyone on the fediverse is a white male tech nerd.
I’m not, I was here to promote a movie.
(So, only 2 out 3.)
I’m not either.
I know of two non-techie women on here.
And it’s definitely not helping that the biggest Mastodon instance for artists is pretending to be progressive while being hostile to the LGBT community. Mastodon has a chance to snatch up artists who are pissed off about Twitter, and of course they’re going to check out mastodon.art not knowing about their bullshit.
I’m not sure what the solution to that should be, however. Take down mastodon.art? I’ve been telling people to avoid that instance, but non-techie people don’t understand that the Mastodon developers don’t own it.
@danielton I would suggest people to go to something like toot.lgbt or another one that puts the LGBTQIA+ community in the front. Obviously LGBT arts are stuck between going for Art or LGBT at that point but the hope will be once they realise mastodon.art isn’t good for LGBT people they will move to another instance.
Not sure about white and male without people talking about it, but tech nerds for sure. Saying this as a non-white non-male tech nerd myself.
It does get a bit monotonous in here…
I’m technically part of that demographic but I’m sick of it too dude
@echo64 I’m like 1.5 lol, white and nerdy about tech but more geeky about it, know a little but not much.
Pros: generally friendlier communities and discussions. Sufficiently shitty communities are defederated rather than tolerated until they gain the attention of advertisers. There are no advertisers, communities are voluntarily supported through donations.
Cons: Reddit is still about 100 times larger and therefore has more content. Sometimes posts/comments dont federate. Gatekeeping is still fairly common.
@xkforce Yeah we has some really good pros, hopefully we get larger over time as I know if we had even 10% of the content that Reddit has we would have so many more people want to use the Fediverse rather than Reddit.
I’ve never really seen any gatekeeping on here, is it certain communities? if it is then people can just create another sub with the same name on another instance lol
Its more like general gatekeeping of Lemmy itself. i.e some people want it to never become popular because they like being among the “special few”
@xkforce Oh yeah I’ve seen that, it’s annoying really as the Fediverse could be a really cool future for the internet I know I moved away from Lemmy instances a while back but still like the communities so hop back in for posts and stuff from my instance.
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Feel pretty much the same. The echo chambers seem to be as bad if not worse than Reddit. People just don’t want diverse opinions. Everything is black or white regardless of the problem. I will probably leave soon. I honestly don’t feel like lemmy and the type of people it attracts are good for my mental health.
I’ll probably be sticking around, but for sure the echo chambers are worse than probably every social media I’ve tried (which admittedly isn’t very many). Imo it’s easily the worst part of Lemmy, and it’s a self-feeding problem. I don’t think the bottleneck to lemmy’s growth is technical anymore, but a culture thing. Personally I’m hesitant to share lemmy with other people in real life because I’m scared that they’ll think I’m a tankie.
Sorry to hear. !casualconversation@lemmy.world tries to be more laid-back conversation. We are also trying to get !moviesandtv@lemm.ee going after losing the previous community. Movies hopefully are not as polarised as other topics
I’ve had a similar experience. I have actually engaged with the tankies in good faith on several occasions, and it has just gotten those account banned for I guess being a leftist heretic? For arguing that there is more to socialism than Marxist orthodoxy? For opposing campists? Idk, they really seem to dislike that, and these days It’s pretty obvious that the worst sin on ml is making tankies look dumb by actually knowing even basic political science.
@SpookyUnderwear What sort of opinions are you looking for as you mentioned you don’t like the Linux, Tankies and stuff like that (Sure I don’t really like seeing everything about Linux) but what is the ideal ‘community’ for you?
My experience is only with Lemmy.
Pros:
- My app functions
Cons:
- Significantly reduced amount of content
- Most of my content from Reddit is not available here or has an incredibly small community
- A tremendous number of posts are polarized to the point of being aggressive
- A disturbingly large number of openly suicidal comments (Eg. “I see no reason to live except…” )
- Seemingly every climate-related post has someone stating “eat the rich” as a solution to the climate
Overall, mostly negative, but since the alternative for me is nothing (my Reddit client of choice doesn’t work), it’s still better than nothing and is something to scroll through briefly while on the toilet.
Seemingly every climate-related post has someone stating “eat the rich” as a solution to the climate
I wonder why that is? Could there be a relation?
The rich have a really high carbon footprint per kg of meat, even pork and beef have a lower carbon footprint!
Don’t encourage the billionaire meat industry!
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/jk - Don’t eat people folks
I agree wholeheartedly, it’s like people in this platform only want to talk about politics. Even with a random unrelated meme people start talking shit about politics it really ruins it for me
If you don’t each the rich I’ll kill myself
Most climate related posts on most social medias have “eat the rich” as a “solution” I think this is a good idea I think we all love a good bbq
On a serious note a good solution would be to pay a visit or email a local representative or politician in your local community or nation and asking if they’ll add anti monopoly laws
I love it. Don’t have to bend over and take it from the corpos and shareholders.
If we don’t like how one host runs their server we can fuck off elsewhere or run a server ourselves.
@scottmeme Do you think the Fediverse could be the future for ‘social media’?
Not the one you replied to, but I don’t think so only because most people believe that it’s not as simple as your standard social media, and, to some extent, they’re right.
I don’t know, I downloaded Boost for Lemmy the day it came out and setup was easier than it was for Reddit
I think the 3rd-party apps Reddit hated so much massively help cater to the preferences of users with varying levels of experience and dedication
@brown567 @pepsison52895 As brown mentioned, things like 3rd party apps really help with stream lining the process, I know I was confused about Instances but with things like Tumblr, Wordpress & Threads trying to get into the Fediverse it’s a promising sign.
I explain instances more like login in with emails, you can still communicate with the other but can’t log in on the other one unless you have another account.
Yes, for things that are focussed on the individual (microblogging Mastodon, photo sharing Pixelfed) or anonymous (threadiverse Lemmy/Kbin)
It will take much longer for things that are more about your direct community or for family members. That’s not really a Fediverse thing, I don’t think a new Facebook could take off easily either. It’s really difficult to get grandma to learn something new, and in some countries Facebook IS the internet (because of shady dealings and anticompetitive practices)
@otter The hope would be more towards existing platforms adapting for the Fediverse at that rate, Tumblr already want’s to move across to the Fediverse what helps some people join the fun but META’s Threads is also a step into the Fediverse and if that does well maybe they will add Instagram and Facebook into the mix as well allowing Grandma to still see people’s posts even if you don’t want to be on Facebook itself.
As a long-time Reddit user, before the Digg users joined, there are parallels to what Lemmy is now.
Frankly, I don’t give a fuck about the Fediverse. It’s a nice idea, sure, but the average person really doesn’t care. What I like is having a sane Reddit alternative with decent apps, so I can look at memes while I take a dump.
If there’s something to dislike, it’s the lack of content. There are no alternatives to many of the subreddits I used to frequent, like Hajime No Ippo and BJJ.
@EnderMB Yeah I really hope the smaller communities start popping off a little more as it would be good to have smaller subs like them grow and get created.
BJJ, was that a sub for jeans you wear while getting head? /r/BlowJobJeans
Very positive on mastodon. Mostly positive on Lemmy. It has some of the same problem with trolls and stuck-up/rude posters that Reddit does but for the most part. 90% of my interactions are positive. Probably closer to 95%
I like the flexibility and freedom.
I dislike all the duplicate stories clogging the feed@BradleyUffner It’s one of the downsides I’ve seen, it seems like some people choose to post the same thing on 3+ communities of the same topic and it really just gets annoying sometimes.
I wonder if there could be a technical solution to this problem, like letting users define aggregates of multiple community and let them choose a deduplication algorithm of their choice… 🤔
I think I just realized after reading this thread that I’ve posted more threads on here since I started a few months ago than in all my time on Reddit. Part of that is genuinely missing the niche communities I liked there and helping to build ones for people with similar interests here (and I’m finding new ones in the process).
Another part is my long-standing interest in decentralization in general. Ruthless efficiency has centralized everything, from where I shop to where I hang out. There’s something civic lost in that somewhere. Things don’t have to be as efficient as possible, and good jobs and honest opportunities for socializing are created when it’s not all striving to place offerings at the altar of stock dividends. It’s why I don’t mind seeing the duplicate communities on the Fediverse. The sociologist in me is fascinated to see how it all shakes out in a place where the forces shaping these things aren’t all sociopathic.
That said, I do wish development was more active. I imagine there’s some hesitancy for users to literally buy in, but they really do need more funding for developers.
That said, I do wish development was more active. I imagine there’s some hesitancy for users to literally buy in, but they really do need more funding for developers.
Mbin has been getting some traction lately, as a community-supported fork of Kbin (which was handled by a single person): https://github.com/MbinOrg
This seems promising. Lemmy can also be developed of course, but Rust seems a more niche language than PHP
Great news!
This is good to hear. I started my Fediverse journey on kbin but eventually moved over because the spam was out of control. Hopefully this makes it easier on mods.
@Ashtear Yeah the only way the smaller communities that we miss from places like Reddit to move across would be to start posting relevant content on the Fediverse in there own community and eventually there will just as much or more useful content on the Fediverse as there is on Reddit, and maybe people from smaller communities will move across growing the Fediverse further.
People really seem to hate farmland and cars.
Hate cars for sure. Don’t hate farmland. Actually, I’m from the Midwest and what I really hate is the farmland being bought so we can just put more swaths of 1 story stripmalls on it. Some of the most fertile land in the world and we put yet another sprawling tj maxx/target/huge grocery store on it.
I encourage urbanization in dense areas so we can maximize fields. All farms should be pro dense cities so we can keep farms as farms.
Pros: Moderation quality, app ecosystem, no corporations or ads.
Cons: Small community, wayyy too much duplication of ‘subreddits’ on Lemmy across different servers (inherently not an issue on Mastodon).
@OscarRobin Yeah some of the smaller communities on Lemmy and other instances should work together and try and create a ‘bigger’ community first before having to break up into different ones.
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@CubbyTustard I’m glad it’s feeling like a better home for you, seems like a lot more people are better mental health wise using the Fediverse what’s good, just hope it stays that way into the future.
I agree with the points being made here, but for me personally, my favorite thing is that I’m not constantly being corralled into some corporate trap like other social media - especially lately. I’m being treated like a user again, instead of a statistic in some dickhead’s CPM chart.
Yeah, the lack of ads is also a massive win in my book.
The thing is, I wouldn’t even be mad about ads necessarily. It’s just that the whole idea of “ads” has become so aggressively anti-consumer that it’s literally a bad security practice to not block them.
Like, if they allowed well-vetted ads, served without tracking and all that trash, I honestly wouldn’t mind. The server hosting does need to be paid for somehow, after all, and it remains to be seen if donations alone can really sustain it long term.
That said, as a user, I do appreciate this being one of the very few places not trying to inundate me with consumerism.
@kakes Yeah unsure if the future of the Fediverse can last with just donations but it seems like most instances don’t cost much to run and knowing you have so much more content than if you where just trying to be another Facebook without the Fediverse access.
In the end of the day the cats out of the bag and companies like META know this and are rather trying to create there own Fediverse instance, just make there platform join it (such as Tumblr) or hope that it goes away like X/Twitter
