Google could kill YouTube Vanced for good::The company is exploring an integrity API that could lock down WebViews with DRM

  • bstix@feddit.dk
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    11 months ago

    It’s a waste of time. People who bother installing Vanced are not likely to click a single god damn ad even if it’s forced on them.

    So yes, Google can choose to bother some people and get higher statistics on ad views, but the companies paying for the ad will not see one single fucking sale more. This lowers the value of the ad.

    They’re chasing imaginary revenue.

    The value of exposure isn’t real either. The phone might play it but I don’t fucking watch something that I don’t want to watch. I’ve been online since before online ads were a thing and not once have I bought anything from any online ads.

    Just let me opt out of that circus for fuck sake.

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      11 months ago

      If you aren’t paying them for Premium, or viewing their ads, you’re literally costing them money. They’d rather stop you from even consuming the bandwidth.

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        11 months ago

        On the other hand, they are spending real money on development time to fight against an army of independents doing it for fun or personal satisfaction. That’s throwing money into a hole they can never fill up

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          11 months ago

          Yeah, as someone in ops in another industry I would just chaulk this up to the cost of doing business, cut my losses, and move on. I can’t imagine most people are using ad blockers.

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            11 months ago

            With the multiple updates per day they’ve been hammering out against the ublock origin devs, I would disagree with that. Can’t think of a way they would be accidentally hashing it out against each other per matter of hours

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              11 months ago

              They want to get paid, I just don’t think they see any competitor as a threat.

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        11 months ago

        Well, that part is working really well. I’ve been using YouTube less and less every time they’ve worsened the free service. I don’t even bother with the revanced loopholes, I’ll just don’t use YouTube to find stuff. Most of the content is made for monetisation purposes anyway.

        I’m not saying they shouldn’t do it, or that I don’t understand why. It’s just a prime example of the internet going to shit.

        • phillaholic@lemm.ee
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          I’m not disagreeing you, just stating the facts. If we aren’t paying for it, and not watching their ads, we can’t expect to be considered at all. I paid for Premium for a few months, just canceled it while I catch up on some other things. We still have the freedom to pick and choose which services we pay for which is fine by me.

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        11 months ago

        If you give thumbs ups and add comments, you’re still providing user generated content that increases the value of the content you watched, so they’re still getting something out of it. Your contributions could go on to drive someone else to watch the video which could end up seeing the ad you blocked.

        It’s a question of what that value is that you’ve provided to the service. It’s the same question Reddit will be finding out the answers to over the next couple months.

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          11 months ago

          You can try to look it up if you want, but I’d suspect those sort of interactions are fractions of a penny on the dollar compared to revenue from Premium or Ads.

      • CmdrShepard@lemmy.one
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        11 months ago

        Does it really cost them? If we take it to the extreme and say everyone collectively decided to stop costing them money by watching their content for free, what would that do to the value of their platform?

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          11 months ago

          Yes, Bandwidth, servers, storage are all expensive. If everyone stopped paying or seeing ads they’d kill the product and you’d have nothing. There is no viable replacement for YouTube. Most channels would cease to exist. Only the larger ones would be able to afford to figure out how to keep going. The ladder would be pulled up for any small or new creator looking to break in.

          • Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            11 months ago

            It would suck but things would go on. I’m sure other places like tiktok would salivate at the idea of a YouTube exodus. Also there’s other platforms that would gladly have, at least, subsections of YouTube. Plenty of other places to post your gaming videos.

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              11 months ago

              Letting TikTok win is not good. Unless something has changed, they pay shit to creators too.

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      11 months ago

      Not all ads are cost per click, many are priced by impression, and that traffic to Vance’s costs money.

      So they would make more money blocking Vance, but the impressions from Vance’s users are likely the seething “I’ll never buy from you for making me watch this ad” type.