The thing is: Hamas is the only organization actually doing anything for the Palestinian cause (remember 2021). I also find the designation terrorist group pretty biased towards the US (the attack’s details are still up in the air, and otherwise they’re using questionable means to fight an occupier), but either way “ban Hamas” does nothing but reaffirm the status quo. Anyone designating Hamas as a terrorist group has to do the same for Israel, because they do everything Hamas is criticized for doing, only on a larger scale and with a lot more dead people.
Are you seriously questioning the designation of Hamas as a terrorist group?
What. The. Fuck. Is. Wrong. With. You?
Israel is occupying Palestine. Netanyahu’s government is implementing collective punishment. The IDF have killed 10x as many civilians as Hamas. And Hamas is a terrorist organization.
Yes, missiles are weapons more associated with military operations than terrorism.
But Hamas doesn’t perform “military operations” AFAIK. They don’t “advance” on areas or take cities or any other goal I associate with military offensives.
The strategy, from what I can tell, is to launch missiles at civilians in order to terrorize Israel. It’s just terrorism with missiles.
(And yeah, while the IDF does appear to have more traditional military operations, it is also clear that terrorizing Palestine is a specific goal. They also deserve the title.)
Yes, missiles are weapons more associated with military operations than terrorism.
But Hamas doesn’t perform “military operations” AFAIK. They don’t “advance” on areas or take cities or any other goal I associate with military offensives.
The missiles force Israel to use the iron dome, which makes sense from an attrition perspective. Also they sometimes use large amounts of them to get concessions out of Israel (see: 2021). They’re basically what gives Hamas teeth in this conflict.
Hamas has singlehandedly set back the prospects for a Palestinian state for years, maybe decades. It’s really ironic that you believe they do anything to help Palestinians. Also they are the ones who have the biggest interest in getting as many Palestinian people killed by Israel as they possibly can. They do so by preventing them from leaving and using them as human shields for their military installations.
Hamas has singlehandedly set back the prospects for a Palestinian state for years, maybe decades.
They’ve been set back since Netenyahu got elected in 1996. That’s the moment when peace failed; everything that came after was farces, and the result of that was Hamas winning the election in 2006.
Are you really saying that Israel really needed Switzerland’s help when they’ve been running an open air prison for decades? They’ve never needed help against Hamas.
You can be critical of many things Israel does but banning Hamas doesn’t seem like a terrible move to me
The thing is: Hamas is the only organization actually doing anything for the Palestinian cause (remember 2021). I also find the designation terrorist group pretty biased towards the US (the attack’s details are still up in the air, and otherwise they’re using questionable means to fight an occupier), but either way “ban Hamas” does nothing but reaffirm the status quo. Anyone designating Hamas as a terrorist group has to do the same for Israel, because they do everything Hamas is criticized for doing, only on a larger scale and with a lot more dead people.
Are you seriously questioning the designation of Hamas as a terrorist group?
What. The. Fuck. Is. Wrong. With. You?
Israel is occupying Palestine. Netanyahu’s government is implementing collective punishment. The IDF have killed 10x as many civilians as Hamas. And Hamas is a terrorist organization.
AFAIK Hamas has mostly been doing rocket attacks since 2006, which are pretty questionable but have a clear military purpose.
I wouldn’t say “clear.”
Yes, missiles are weapons more associated with military operations than terrorism.
But Hamas doesn’t perform “military operations” AFAIK. They don’t “advance” on areas or take cities or any other goal I associate with military offensives.
The strategy, from what I can tell, is to launch missiles at civilians in order to terrorize Israel. It’s just terrorism with missiles.
(And yeah, while the IDF does appear to have more traditional military operations, it is also clear that terrorizing Palestine is a specific goal. They also deserve the title.)
The missiles force Israel to use the iron dome, which makes sense from an attrition perspective. Also they sometimes use large amounts of them to get concessions out of Israel (see: 2021). They’re basically what gives Hamas teeth in this conflict.
Hamas has singlehandedly set back the prospects for a Palestinian state for years, maybe decades. It’s really ironic that you believe they do anything to help Palestinians. Also they are the ones who have the biggest interest in getting as many Palestinian people killed by Israel as they possibly can. They do so by preventing them from leaving and using them as human shields for their military installations.
They’ve been set back since Netenyahu got elected in 1996. That’s the moment when peace failed; everything that came after was farces, and the result of that was Hamas winning the election in 2006.
Are you really saying that Israel really needed Switzerland’s help when they’ve been running an open air prison for decades? They’ve never needed help against Hamas.
Which part of my statement makes you think I’m saying that? All I said is banning terrorist party = good.
@100_percent_a_bot @Phanatik Funny how Israel’s terrorist party is getting a pass
Is this terrorist party in a room with us right now?
@100_percent_a_bot https://www.wsj.com/video/airstrike-hits-convoy-of-gaza-civilians-fleeing-south/3F735CB9-1162-4304-A1B0-FF4232A38AD7