• Candelestine@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    tbf, part of being democratic means your people get to decide for themselves what they will and won’t allow, they have that overriding freedom. We, for instance, could amend our constitution to remove our 1st amendment, if we so wished. It’s a power we have.

    That does not make them militaristic, aggressive, hyper-patriotic states though, which is something different.

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      11 months ago

      No. Rights cannot be voted away, they are too important. South Korea is infringing on his right to free speech.

      If the US removed the 1st Amendment, Americans would still have the right to free speech, the government would, however, no longer be honoring the rights of its people.

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        11 months ago

        I hear this often, but it’s fundamentally ideological. If the founders wished them to be more permanent, they would have made them so.

        Instead, different people can do things in different ways. And reality, not ideology, can show us what works and what doesn’t. We do not need to force other people to agree with us, we can let them have freedom too. Live and let live.

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        11 months ago

        So where do these rights come from, if not the laws? I wonder if you may be taking free speech as a right as a given because of the time you grew up in. You speak of it as an absolute, but where does that belief come from? You say “rights” as if they’re something enshrined in our souls by a god, but like, how do you know that? Where does this information come from?

        This is purely a philosophical question. I’m on the free speech wagon here. But realistically, Who gets to decide what’s actually an inalienable right that everyone has vs. rights that are encoded in laws?