• Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    9 months ago

    Why save money when the cost of everything rises exponentially faster than my savings add up?

    My dad was an immigrant juat learning English. He biked to a mechanics shop and asked for a job. He got it at $8/hr. 3 months later some guy quit and the owner asked my dad to promote and now he was making $12/hr.

    He bought a 4 bed 2 bath 2 car garage home on a quarter acre for $180,000.

    My mom bought a similar home for $80,000 because of the bubble crash. In a very populated city, not rural. Fted Meyer (an everything store) was half a mile away.

    My parents bought their last home more than 10 years ago. It’s worth almost a million now. The mortgage is $2,000. To rent a studio apartment in the same area is $1,800.

    What’s there to save for?

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    No were not doom spending. We literally don’t have cash to save up. What else are we supposed to do? Live in a run down car by the river and not spend a dime on anything so we can pretend to have a retirement?

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    Rather than cut expenses, 73% of Gen Zers say they would rather live in the moment, a recent Prosperity Index study by Intuit found.

    They said the same thing about Milennials and then blamed the state of the economy on them too. Meanwhile it’s all Boomers and early Gen-Xers driving the boat, and as the iceburg approaches they’re slamming the throttle down and overzealously knocking anyone out of the way who wants to turn the boat before it hits.

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        Lol. Remember how many boomers lost their jobs and then lost their homes back in 2006-2011 because they had no savings and had been doom spending since back in the 80s when Reagan promised trickle-down economics would mean free money for everyone forever?

        And then those same boomers who previously could afford a house, cars and still live comfortably now took all the low paying jobs meant for millenial highschool and college students? And then had the nerve to blame those same millenial highschoolers and broke college students (the kids they raised and told to go into debt for half their life) that they were lazy because they couldnt find a demeaning minimum wage job like shoveling shit that they themselves would rather starve than do?

        And on top of that blamed the same highschoolers and college students for buying “luxuries” like coffee or avocado toast when at that same age were buying gaudy crap they didnt need because they were bored?

        And voted for the shitshow of a world we have now willingly because they were so insecure someone with brown skin might have a trinket they don’t that they consistently voted to make sure no one but them could have anything nice ever?

        In the process of fucking everyone else over they willingly fucked themselves, their children, their grandchildren and even great grandchildren harder then they ever thought imaginable. It’d be hilarious except they’re still doing it and blaming the very people they are fucking over for their continually poor decisions. And now they’re dying poor and destitute from healthcare costs thanks to a life of poor decisions and saying “how could everyone we insulted, assaulted, and harassed do this to us? Oh woe is us!”

        You’re over here faulting Gen Z for not saving money at a less than 1% interest rate for savings or investing in stocks that lose a third of their value on the regular and really isnt worth investing unless there is a company match on investments so it’s at least not all their money being thrown away.

        Do some soul-searching, brother.

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    Jessica Dickler, why the FUCK would I wait for the value of my cash to disintegrate when I could get 1.08x more tacos today than if I put that money in savings and bought tacos with it next year?

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      In 2019 I got a job doubling my income and benefits. Kinda went nuts on spending and now I have most everything I ever wanted. And then inflation exploded. I’m a seriously lucky dude.

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    Isn’t circulating money good for our shitty consumer-driven economy?

    I have no idea. I’m old and you can’t take it with you, so spend I shall.

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    “Doom spending” isn’t a thing. They’re just spending. It’s morally neutral but it’s a good thing if you like GDP to go up.

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    The thing is, I agree with striking a balance if possible - try as best as possible to hedge your bets. That said, I also think that I know plenty of people who put off stuff because of financial responsibility or saving, and then end up unable to ever get much out of that. By the time you might retire, you’re going to be 68? You might well die first, you definitely won’t be as able to travel or take on many hobbies as you could when you’re 20,30,40…

    Unless you get to be a multi millionaire - you’re basically going to be divesting any assets you have till Medicare kicks in if you get really ill at some point, or you’re going to be relying on family, or you’ll die before that happens. In any of those cases, why do you want to have more money to give to the medical system before medicare kicks in?

    If you want to leave a bunch of money to your heirs - well, figure that out I guess, but I’d suggest that genZ etc are not really interested in having 0 life so they can give a fat check to potential kids 50+ years down the road. Know what you want, but otherwise you’re hoping we manage to keep Social Security and maybe you get a 401k, but having a large normal savings account or a big personal investment account just generally seems like a losing game.