• Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works
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    11 months ago

    As a Democrat from upstate NY let me tell you why the rural areas are dark red: NYC seems to be all that matters.

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      At least 50% of NY’s population lives within 50 miles of NYC and I wouldn’t be surprised to find out its closer to 65% or 70%. Of course it gets the most attention. I get why people living outside that area would be upset but they cant be surprised.

      You see the same thing in every state with a large metro area. There’s always griping from western and central MA but the fact is 75% of the population lives in the Boston metro area.

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        The issue, addressed in the article, is that these rural areas used to have industry that gave people a sense of purpose. Now the choices are basically move to a city, die of a heroin overdose, or join a right wing militia. We need to give these people something to do that’s beneficial and where they feel they’re contributing to their communities, otherwise, they’re going to be wooed by groups with ulterior motives that dress their goals up in rhetoric of service and cohesion.

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          I mean we have crumbling infrastructure. You could probably start some sort of government program to have people work on that. Like the whole pipeline from education through training, building, maintaining, researching.

          Unfortunately a chunk of the us is pathologically opposed to that sort of thing.

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            The exact people we’re supposed to be coddling and hand feeding, specifically.

            I’m sympathetic to economic concerns, that sympathy lessens alot when you reject any offered solutions to scream “coal or bust” (or relevant absent industry here.) That sympathy dissipates completely once you decide to blame gays and blacks and start spending all your “I ain’t got no money” cash on Maga gear and throwing faschie parades.

            It’s almost as if it’s not about economics at all 🤔

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          11 months ago

          used to have industry that gave [men] a sense of purpose

          They need gender-affirming care.

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      11 months ago

      its the same on the other coast… Seattle and the i5 area are what keep Washington blue. There are some deep red parts of Washington state and its frightening. As someone that looks like my father (Anglo Saxon) but identifies with my mother (Lakota), it is a surreal experience sometimes. People are fucking crazy and the people who think they are powerful (the deep red) because they are loud are going to have a very rude awakening if there is a violent revolution. They do not have the numbers to repel an angry populace that is fleeing the cities.

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        11 months ago

        That’s the entire planet. Metropolitan places are metropolitan. Homogeneous places are filled with ignorance and prejudice.

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      11 months ago

      Lack of diversity, the higher degree of isolation in rural/suburban life, and higher amount of churchgoers getting preached hate probably has something to do with it too.

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      11 months ago

      NYC matters a whole lot fucking more than Mechanicville. What do they even want?

      NYC has a shit ton of economic and cultural output. It matters.

      I get that people might feel bad that they’re seen as irrelevant or uninteresting. But, uh, tough?

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        Democrat in NYS here. The right wingers I know are often pissed that we have to obey laws that make sense for cities but don’t make sense for rural areas.

        Similarly, they get pissed that billions of dollars go to NYC when we have important bridges and roads that have been closed for years.

        I understand why it is that way. I understand it’s hard to have it any other way. And I understand our country is facing more important things right now. But I can also sympathize a bit.

        NYC is the money maker because money gets put into it which makes it the money maker which is why money gets put into it, etc.

        A lot of these areas used to be economically successful and aren’t anymore. It does suck that I’m stuck here due to family and friends. Sure I could pack up and move to a liberal city but I’d be leaving a lot behind and my son would be without any extended family. Can’t do it.