But Russians are still able to compete under neutral flag, same as last year.
This lets them feel like victims but also take credit for any medals Russian athletes win. I honestly don’t understand why the Olympics insist on having Russians competing when they cheated systematically even before they started murdering Ukrainians.
They can but they are not welcome… Regardless their opinion or what.
You can come but we spit on you.
I would like see France coherent in its geopolitical positions regarding this kind of speech… But…
We have a story as country…
If we want to exclude athletes from international competition just because the ruling class in the country they happen to have been born in undertakes military action, that’s fine. We just have to be consistent about it. I’d like to see athletes from the US, Isreal, UK, France, Canada, and many other countries treated the same way the west is currently treating Russian and Belorussian athletes.
I’m okay with individuals from offending countries competing, as long as they denounce the state by separating from its governing body, and choose to train outside of their confines.
Let an Israeli or Russian compete, but only if they move away from their country and disassociate, opting to relocate and represent another country where possible - and we’ll see the best possible outcome of banning war-hungry nations.
So which countries be allowed? Presumably not the USA. Or the UK, France, etc.
The countries forced to fly under the Olympic flag? Last time I checked, the IOC hadn’t forced this…
So what’s your answer?
Russian and Belarus, obviously. They’re the ones that were banned by the IOC.
What answer were you expecting? If you want to ban any country that’s been in a war, you’d basically be watching San Marino compete against Lichtenstein…
Yes. that’s the point. I’m asking how you’re excusing your double standard.
The competition between USA, Russia, and China is what gets people to tune in, really. With anyone of those countries not participating, viewership tanks, is my guess.
There’s also the whole thing about eschewing politics. Traditionally wars were paused for the Olympics, but I’m pretty sure that’s irrelevant today, especially when the US led a boycott of the Moscow Olympics in 1980 and then Russia boycotted the Los Angeles Olympics in 1984. It’s really about viewership.
Oh and the IOC is notoriously corrupt. If Russia pays to participate, the IOC will find every which way to let them, no matter how badly they cheat and genocide, same with the US and China.
Is it?
I’m in the UK, and I don’t think the British (or any other European country) particularly gives a fuck about how any of those countries do. Ask most people in the UK who America’s best gymnast was and most couldn’t tell you.
What people want to see is the best, which to do so needs involvement from the largest countries (the three named). If any of these countries is banned from these sports, chances are that any funding for them is killed pretty quickly, and suddenly those great athletes aren’t world-beaters any more.
Like I said, it’s about viewership, and the UK brings very little of that compared to the US, Russia, and China.
If you really cared to see the best, you’d know who Simone Biles is. Everyone tunes in to see their guys win.
Are they simply not welcome but will compete anyway or are they banned outright
Fourth paragraph in the article:
Russian athletes can compete in the Paris Olympics, which run from July 26 until August 11 but only as neutrals.
France with history of enslaving and colonising black people should never be allowed at any global competitions.
true. and that applies to westoids in general
Israeli athletes are just fine tho
It’s only condemnable if it’s white people that are dying. Muslims, of course, don’t count.
Please add a sarcasm tag.
I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. There’s too many people out there posting shit like this for real.
I mean, I appreciate the fact that I’m getting down voted because it means we’ve moderated this community well enough that nobody thinks this is serious. I take this as a positive.
That’s some solid reframing, bro 👍
Copium at it’s most refined form
Your sarcasmometer is broken.
I acknowledge this.
I don’t understand. It is sarcasm unless @naturalgasbad@lemmy.ca believes muslim deaths don’t count.
It’S oNLy CoNdEmNabLe iF iT’s WhiTe pEoPLe tHaT aRe dYiNg. MusLimS, oF CoUrSe, DoN’t CouNt.
Better?
OK, wait a minute. The modern Olympics are a super problematic thing in themselves, but the idealistic naïveté that underpins them has a certain internal logic. And this statement breaks that internal logic. If Russia breaks the Olympic Truce, then sanction them however appropriate (e.g., by excluding them from the next games, like it has been done before), but this kind of pre-emptive exclusion is inconsistent with what the Olympics are about and reeks of hypocrisy and double standards, when it is only directed at Russians and Belarussians and not any of the “what about X” countries that anyone can think of.
That said, fuck the IOC and the corporate monster that the Olympics have become.
Thats why they’re banning Israeli athletes too though right?
They’re banning Israeli athletes too, right?
People will start surrounding their flats and say BOO during the match.
We can only hope
And FLIP THE MIDDLE FINGER at the athletes and the coaches.
Completely missing the point of the Olympics
