• Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    Most popular dish in the UK is Tikka Massala.

    But:

    Fat, carbs and protein do not come purer than fish and chips.

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      Yes, there have been a few comments mentioning Tikka masala, but can you name another British dish with flavor? I don’t think so.

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          Turkeys are native to the Americas.

          Now that I think about it, so are potatoes, sweet potatoes, pumpkins, corn and cranberries. Thinking about my own Thanksgiving dinner table, the only thing I can identify as an Old World food are yeast rolls.

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            Its almost as if they just swapped out the chicken for turkey, having discovered and been using potatoes for years beforehand.

            Nothing on the apple pie then? Just the one you thought you could refute, it would seem.

            By your wild “logic” that would make every pork dish ever Chinese and Southern fried chicken Indian, as the pigs we eat today and chickens come from China and India respectfully.

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              Yeah, apples aren’t native to the New World and apple pie wasn’t invented in the Americas. It’s not specifically British, either; it seems to have emerged independently across Western Europe in the middle ages, and was first brought to the Americas by the Dutch rather than the English. Hell, not even the quintessential American pie apple was invented here; the granny smith is Australian.

              The British invented roast turkey about as much as they invented roast bison. You want to get into more specific recipes, I’d say chicken tikka masala is British and chicken parmesan is American, but I’m not letting the British have right of way over “get bird, add heat.”

              Pumpkin pie is kind of a strange one; the first thing you’d call a “pumpkin pie” was more of a savory soup eaten by Dutch settlers in Massachusetts in the 1600s; the first pumpkin served in a pastry crust was French, and the modern pattern of “sugar pumpkin puree in a shortbread crust” was invented a few minutes after the US Constitution was ratified.

              Sweet potato pie is less ambiguous; it seems to have popped into existence fully formed in the American south in the 18th century.

              Basically all corn products including popcorn and cornbread were known to the Native Americans for thousands of years before Europeans arrived.

              The first known recipe for cranberry sauce as we would recognize it today was written in 1796 in the United States.

              Green beans are native to Central America, green bean casserole was invented in New Jersey in 1950…

              Again, what of this is particularly British? An American thanksgiving meal is as British as pizza.

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                Apple pie is from England, even if you don’t want it to be. Its not even about it not being American but it having flavour and being nice to eat.

                They swapped out chicken for turkey and used the exact same recipe and cooking style. Declaring it unconnected changes nothing.

                Green beans is a substitute for the exact same green veg you get with a British roast meal. If I put peas into a stir fry, it doesn’t make the meal not Chinese lol.

                Again, how can you not see those mildy adapted British things as British?

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                  Because I’m from a country with an actual national identity of its own, not some washed up little island whose national museum has on display a lot of things stolen from elsewhere and not much of its own, because their national culture has extremely little to show for itself.

                  I don’t have to pretend we invented (checks notes) cooking food to feel like have any kind of national identity. You do, and it’s hilariously pathetic.

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    Meanwhile yanks with their two spices - butter and sugar

    “Our food is the tastiest in the wuuuurld”

    Aye but yous can’t afford that coronary eh mate 😂

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      Is this where we pretend that Brits don’t consume obscene amounts of sugar and butter?

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        No, there’s no point pretending they’re not fat cunts as well

        But we’re pretending they don’t consume vast amounts of spices too. They’re fat smelly cunts tbh

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      I mean obviously you’ve never taken the time to explore the US. US food is utterly fantastic.

      Our beer is better too.

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        American “beer” lol. Laughs in German.

        Edit: Grumpy Muricans, your downvotes only prove my point!

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            Lol. As if you’ve ever even tried the local bavarian breweries (the stuff they sell on Oktoberfest doesn’t count)! xD

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              While I haven’t lived there I’ve done several trips through the country. Maybe 7 weeks in total? I’d choose Belgium if I were to choose a regional winner.

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        What’s the difference between the US and a cup of yoghurt?

        Yoghurt will have developed a culture after being left alone for 250 years. /j

        Edit: Sorry, should have said "what’s the difference between white Americans.

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          You have your yoghurt. I’ll take the bbq, whiskey, and our massive dining industry that produces the best food on the planet.

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            Lol. You can keep your bland Whisky (I’ll take Irish, thanks) and your industrially processed junk food, filled to the brim with corn sirup.

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              Yank here. Most of us were raised on American Exceptionalism which has been pounded into our head since birth, for a few generations. There’s no point arguing this, because murica…

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                American here. I have never seen a fellow American refer to themself as a Yank. I thought that word was reserved for WWII British soldiers.

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                  You never sang “Yankee Doodle,” or “Yankee Doodle Dandy” on July 4, even as a kid? I’m southern as can be and these were staples on the Fourth, Memorial and Labor Days, as well as bright red hotdogs, chips (crisps), soda and Budweiser and PBR.

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        I’ve never had a decent American beer. PBR is the closest to decent I’ve ever had.

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      Butter was a luxury prior to 150 years ago limited to a hard 20 mile radius of milk farms. 10 if you wanted it to taste good. Refrigeration changed this.

      Sugar was similarly limited due to either trade with the far east or the establishment of colonies in the west indies. Russia didn’t have a sugar source until sugar beets in the late 1850s.

      Most regional European cuisines were developed in the 1700s with the introduction of Tomatoes and Potatoes from the Americas. Both of the spices called out were still luxuries at the time.