Microsoft is now nagging Windows 10 customers to switch to a Microsoft account instead of using a local account.
  • 0oWow@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    3 months ago

    It’s sad that Microsoft insists on such a dangerous idea in the name of profits.

  • jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    3 months ago

    This is not new. Microsoft has been pushing users further into their SaaS ecosystem for years. Creating a local account on Windows 10 is more difficult than signing up for a Microsoft account. That’s by design. It just goes along with the transition of their core business away from desktop software and into hosted solutions and data processing. Annoying? A little. Surprising? Hardly.

    • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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      3 months ago

      One of the first things MS did after buying Mojang was to slap Azure AD on it for account management; and it’s been a number of years now since they switched to that being the only way to authenticate to Minecraft.

      This has definitely been the frog boiling strategy at Microsoft for a decade or so. It’s likely a big part of why Windows 11 exits, too.

      • CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        3 months ago

        In a corporate setting you’re probably using Active Directory for authentication and don’t have a local account anyway.

      • Lexi Sneptaur@pawb.socialEnglish
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        3 months ago

        I use Linux on my desktop at work, and sometimes you might end up with an apple computer instead depending on the employer.

        The monopoly is slipping.

        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

        • Opafi@feddit.de
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          3 months ago

          Same. The Linux setup there is a fucking mess though… AD authentication freezes login for a minute or so if you switch networks at the wrong moment, puppet keeps messing with the system and recently they installed clamav as a live malware scanner on all machines, making them eat batteries for breakfast and slowing down even menial tasks. If you have admin rights, they refuse to add your user to sudoers but instead create a new admin user (another indicator that they’re just really coming from windows) which everybody just uses to add their original user to sudoers, which was a nice workaround but which they now noticed and want to prohibit via puppet or user rights or something. It’s just such a mess. I mean, still leagues ahead of using windows, but a corporate environment really is a machine that transforms time and money into a terrible experience for everybody.

          • MonkderDritte@feddit.de
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            3 months ago

            I mean, scanning your download folder, if there is something new, could make sense in a high-risk environment. But only if.

          • umbrella@lemmy.ml
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            3 months ago

            IT departments will have to adapt, of course.

            I mean they (actually we) usually have a bad time even transitioning from windows 10 to 11, Linux will 100% be a mess for a good while.

            • Opafi@feddit.de
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              3 months ago

              Oh we have a dedicated Linux service contract with a dedicated Linux support company that has technicians just to deal with Linux issues and provide the Linux setup. We’ve had time to adapt. I guess some bloke still decided that there just had to be a malware scanner and now we all have to eat shit. This is much less a lesson for it departments and much more a lesson that the people who manage stuff just have other goals than the people working with the tools that are managed, so you end up with somebody who wants to cover their ass in case something goes wrong in the future and makes it a terrible experience for everybody in the process but can sell it as a necessity to the people below and as action to the people above.

              • notfromhere@lemmy.ml
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                3 months ago

                Why don’t they go with Microsoft Defender for Linux? I have never used it so don’t know if it’s still a battery hog…

      • ReakDuck@lemmy.ml
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        3 months ago

        I had a ying yang work experience with two companies as a pupil.

        One used Linux and I had unexpected skills making me solve and create a product/feature. The project manager was kind and a nerd like me. The chef was sweet kind.

        The other company used Microsoft products in every corner like a hardcore football fan. The project manager was kinda toxic and it was hard to explain something to him as he pretended to have knowledge and the chef was rarely in a happy mood and often screaming at him. He didn’t knew many things about Microsoft products and browser itself, he just coded and didn’t understood its entirety back knowledge. He expected me to be some master student and graded me bad for skills no pupil had in our class as we just only learned Java in school, I could use all langauages they used and it still wasn’t enough.

        • fluckx@lemmy.world
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          3 months ago

          Y u no program like senior engineer when you come out of school. We even pay you competitive ( minimum ) IT wage!

          Code more for company in your own time so you can catch up.

          1/5 performance review.

      • hglman@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        3 months ago

        Maybe but it might have a full virtualized option where your local is just a client to stream the virtualized cloud env.

  • Grass@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Can they just fuck off already? I sign into windows like once every 2 months and every time it’s different and a worse experience. All my customizations using built in menus get messed up too and the shit that just shows up without asking. “We put the search back on the start bar!” Like fucking actually why?!

    • ReakDuck@lemmy.ml
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      3 months ago

      While I am using AtlasOS (Windows with bloat stripped off), it still kinda behaves like windows in someway compared to Ameliorated which doesn’t have Microsoft tracking and updates anymore.

      I woke up in the night and stared at my PC at around 3:00am and suddenly my PC starts from the suspend. I assume this is a way to update Windows secretely but I never asked for it and it damaged me emotionally because my devices behave in unexpected and unpredictable ways.

      I learned to always shutdown.

        • ReakDuck@lemmy.ml
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          3 months ago

          I am visiting this mess only to play Half Life alyx and some other VR games.

          I am full time Linux everywhere. Even on my Chromebook which doesnt have ChromeOS anymore.

      • Grass@sh.itjust.works
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        3 months ago

        I used atlas for a while but there are a number of issues. If I want to flash reverse engineered firmware to proprietary hardware it often requires patched windows tools leaked from the manufacturer and I haven’t had that work any other way than stock windows. Capitalism with no real consumer protections has fucked us in so many ways.

      • venusenvy47@reddthat.com
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        3 months ago

        I’ve never heard of AtlasOS until this comment. I read the documentation and it’s interesting that they need you to install it using a fresh Windows ISO. I wonder what they are doing that can’t be accomplished on an existing Windows installation with a bunch of Powershell scripts?

  • darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org
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    3 months ago

    Don’t underestimate the power of nerds. Computer nerds influence tech purchasing decisions, both at home and on the job. The less tech savvy often ask “the computer person” what they recommend. Nerds have actually been astonishingly patient with MS, for decades. But the worse MS makes Windows, the less and less likely they’re going to go with the default, “just buy Windows” answer.

    • Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      3 months ago

      I agree. I’m the guy who picks, buys, assembles, and installs the OS and programs for like everyone around me. I enjoy doing it, they enjoy getting awesome PCs for good prices.

      My next build for them will absolutely not be Microsoft. The average person can get away with an iPad running iOS for their computing needs. So it’ll be a user friendly Linux distro going forward.

  • gnygnygny@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    It’s been more than a year since every decision Microsoft has made has gone against the consumer. What is the target ? Sinking the company ?

      • Secret300@sh.itjust.works
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        3 months ago

        Hopefully in a year years Linux gets more support and becomes a viable alternative

        Edit: for me it is and I’ve been using Linux for years, but some people need certain software