The key they used to make the base engine was ripped from online, not made by them that’s the nails in the coffin right there. They also provided means to publicly available bios keys. They did distribute it, you just had to dig into discord or other means to find it, but it was there.
They were forced to settle because they publicly talked about paying shit on discord too…
So they were forced to settle because they did this thing illegally, yet you say they didn’t…? What…?
The key they used to make the base engine was ripped from online
Proof please. Since it never went to court, nothing like this would have been “found” through the process of discovery. I suspect you’re just making shit up.
They also provided means to publicly available bios keys.
Nope, you had to rip your own to use the software.
They did distribute it, you just had to dig into discord or other means to find it, but it was there.
Users chatting on discord != yuzu doing it.
Nothing about Yuzu itself as a program was illegal. Period.
How some of the developers talked in their Discord shows that they were using it for illegal things, which fucked them. Not the application itself.
Look for yourself, they used someone else’s code, it’s technically not illegal according to the CLA of GitHub , but that’s not relevant to DCMA. It requires them to reverse engineer the code for an emulator, which they didn’t do.
The dev provided the means in discord themselves, they also had a google drive with a ripped key, they also had files on discord of roms to test their gamesc which were acquired illegally.
Please tell me what they did right to claim game preservation…?
The fact that it didn’t go to discovery when other cases have is damning in itself, and you want it in your court? Okay….
It has nothing to do with some made up CLA that GitHub doesn’t even have ರ_ರ , it’s a matter of the license the project is under. Which is open source, e.g. GPL, Apache, MIT, etc. all of which doesn’t prevent the use of the code in other open source projects, especially when consent was already given before hand.
…but that’s not relevant to DCMA.
You bet your ass it isn’t, because the code from Ryujinx doesn’t infringe on Nintendo copyright either.
DCMA
It’s DMCA.
… It requires them to reverse engineer the code for an emulator, which they didn’t do.
How the shit do you think emulators are created without reverse engineering? You can’t be serious.
Please tell me what they did right to claim game preservation…?
They used clean room reverse engineering which is a form of independent creation and already has decades of precedent in its favor.
They were forced to settle because they pirated TOTK ahead of its actual release to allow yuzu to support it, then sold that version that supported it on patreon -> “Made money off it” in nintendo’s eyes. I think it’s fucking stupid that they’re gone, but I’m not surprised, Nintendo happily goes after anything.
Nothing illegal was mentioned there on the emulation side. TOTK is a rom in this specific instance. A Rip of a cartridge, which considering how early it was obtained must have been ripped from a cartridge by somebody (probably on the distribution chain or even from someone inside Nintendo). The system keys didn’t change to support that ROM. They were dumb and advertised support for something that they shouldn’t even have which (probably) to Nintendo proves piracy by the devs as they shouldn’t have been able to obtain the rom.
Nothing about this is how YUZU itself operates as a program. It’s not an illegal emulator and you need to stop spouting this nonsense.
For a “legal” emulator making money they sure didn’t put up a fight, I wonder why the other emulators are doing so and without the money that yuzu illegally pulled in? Maybe because yuzu wasn’t what you thought…?
You literally say they did shit wrong, then in the same breath defend them. This is hilarious. For someone who apparently did nothing wrong, they rolled over hella fast, that doesn’t make you question what they actually did…? Here’s the clue, the lawyers told them they were fucked, settle before discovery or you’re worse than screwed. There’s no way to prove any of this obviously, but it’s the only scenario that makes a shred of sense given the circumstances.
If so then how did Nintendo manage to take down yuzu?
They didn’t. Nintendo and Yuzu came to an agreement and settled out of court.
They settled because they used an illegal key instead of making their own, which is the only legal way to do this for game preservation.
Incorrect. You had to rip that key for yourself. They never distributed it.
They settled because there’s no winning for them. Even if they’re correct (and they really are) it will be years of litigation… and costs.
They were forced to settle because they publicly talked about playing shit [pre-release] on discord too…
Edit: Found a typo. My bad.
The key they used to make the base engine was ripped from online, not made by them that’s the nails in the coffin right there. They also provided means to publicly available bios keys. They did distribute it, you just had to dig into discord or other means to find it, but it was there.
So they were forced to settle because they did this thing illegally, yet you say they didn’t…? What…?
Proof please. Since it never went to court, nothing like this would have been “found” through the process of discovery. I suspect you’re just making shit up.
Nope, you had to rip your own to use the software.
Users chatting on discord != yuzu doing it.
Nothing about Yuzu itself as a program was illegal. Period. How some of the developers talked in their Discord shows that they were using it for illegal things, which fucked them. Not the application itself.
https://twitter.com/Zetta_330/status/1765081419687371165
Look for yourself, they used someone else’s code, it’s technically not illegal according to the CLA of GitHub , but that’s not relevant to DCMA. It requires them to reverse engineer the code for an emulator, which they didn’t do.
The dev provided the means in discord themselves, they also had a google drive with a ripped key, they also had files on discord of roms to test their gamesc which were acquired illegally.
Please tell me what they did right to claim game preservation…?
The fact that it didn’t go to discovery when other cases have is damning in itself, and you want it in your court? Okay….
It has nothing to do with some made up CLA that GitHub doesn’t even have ರ_ರ , it’s a matter of the license the project is under. Which is open source, e.g. GPL, Apache, MIT, etc. all of which doesn’t prevent the use of the code in other open source projects, especially when consent was already given before hand.
You bet your ass it isn’t, because the code from Ryujinx doesn’t infringe on Nintendo copyright either.
It’s DMCA.
How the shit do you think emulators are created without reverse engineering? You can’t be serious.
They used clean room reverse engineering which is a form of independent creation and already has decades of precedent in its favor.
They were forced to settle because they pirated TOTK ahead of its actual release to allow yuzu to support it, then sold that version that supported it on patreon -> “Made money off it” in nintendo’s eyes. I think it’s fucking stupid that they’re gone, but I’m not surprised, Nintendo happily goes after anything.
So they used illegal keys to test their illegal emulator……… you just agreed to everything I’ve stated.
Nothing illegal was mentioned there on the emulation side. TOTK is a rom in this specific instance. A Rip of a cartridge, which considering how early it was obtained must have been ripped from a cartridge by somebody (probably on the distribution chain or even from someone inside Nintendo). The system keys didn’t change to support that ROM. They were dumb and advertised support for something that they shouldn’t even have which (probably) to Nintendo proves piracy by the devs as they shouldn’t have been able to obtain the rom.
Nothing about this is how YUZU itself operates as a program. It’s not an illegal emulator and you need to stop spouting this nonsense.
For a “legal” emulator making money they sure didn’t put up a fight, I wonder why the other emulators are doing so and without the money that yuzu illegally pulled in? Maybe because yuzu wasn’t what you thought…?
You literally say they did shit wrong, then in the same breath defend them. This is hilarious. For someone who apparently did nothing wrong, they rolled over hella fast, that doesn’t make you question what they actually did…? Here’s the clue, the lawyers told them they were fucked, settle before discovery or you’re worse than screwed. There’s no way to prove any of this obviously, but it’s the only scenario that makes a shred of sense given the circumstances.