Students arrested during the police crackdown on protests at universities in New York City last week were denied water and food for 16 hours, according to two faculty members at Columbia University’s Barnard College who collected reports from students who were inside.
Other students reported that they were beaten by New York City Police Department officers after their arrests and taken to the hospital for injuries before being returned to central booking. Photos of the injuries were provided to The Intercept.
Other students reported that they were held in mouse-infested cells, along with the general population of the jail. The students told the professors that they weren’t given water or food for 16 hours and that at least one student was left without shoes for the same period of time.
Just a reminder that, at least as of 2020, the NYPD alone is in the top 30 military budgets in the world when compared to full countries. They spent $10,900,000,000 (that’s 11 billion if you don’t wanna count the zeroes out).
Are they funding a RoboCop program or something? 11 billion. WTF?!
It’s seemingly closer to $6b for that year, which is obviously a ton of money, but considering they employ north of 50,000 people, if each person costs them $75,000/yr that’s already $3.75b. NYC spends $2b on just their department of sanitation. It’s a city with like 8.5m people, everything costs crazy amounts of money.
https://council.nyc.gov/budget/wp-content/uploads/sites/54/2021/05/NYPD.pdf
https://council.nyc.gov/budget/wp-content/uploads/sites/54/2021/05/DSNY.pdfAnd the DSNY has an entire city to clean.
Everybody produces waste. But you only have a small fraction of the population being criminals.
I’d love to read a book about the organizational struggles they’ve faced over the years, but I guess that would just be political history… :(
Just the robot dogs for now, but I’m sure they’ll be first in line when the tech is available.
Pensions
LAPD is over a billion and they don’t even serve the vast majority of LA. LASD does most of it (though they do a really bad job of it).
NYPD officers are bullies with badges.
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I find bully to be an apt description. They habitually belittle, intimidate, or attack people perceived to be weaker than them.
Bastard means unpleasant or despicable. I think that’s somewhat lacking by comparison.
For its schoolyard prevalence alone, I don’t believe “bully” quite illustrates the point, and bastard is far too common, agreed. Whatever happened to santorum, or smeg, etc.? These days, we seem to rely on spitting out derogatory pre-chewed gum, and there’s so much more to English alone — not to mention how many other languages have had cause for coining a phrase or term for whatever moment in particular?
Get creative. Read a book. See the world. Learn to fuck in different tongues. Swear like it was your birthright. (Plot twist: it is.)
Those are certainly more colorful. I use bully for its descriptive accuracy, but your point still stands. The average person knows fewer than one eighth of the words in English language, and use a tenth of that daily. There’s plenty of room for improvement in our insults and condemnations.
Fuck yeah
Shouldn’t have [checks notes] exercised their rights.
I hope these reports are taken very seriously.
But they won’t though.
Sad but true
Taking a page out of the IDF playbook. (Unsurprisingly).
I mean none of them were r*ped or summarily executed so they must still be on the first page. Lol
A couple of years ago I interviewed a guy living in SF who wanted to come over to Norway, to work as a software developer. I asked him why he wanted to make the move and he went on about how he had to get outta there, how he had lost all faith in the country and did not see a good future for himself if he stayed.
At the time I thought to myself that he was being a bit dramatic, but the more I read about how the US is treating its people these days the more I think understand what he was on about.
He made the move, btw.
I think I might’ve had a hard time not judging him for sharing that in an interview. Good on you for not.
That is pretty messed up.
Fascist pigs.
It’s terrifying how quickly and uniformly LEO’s across the country adjusted their tactics after the George Floyd protests.
The laaaaannnnnd of the freeeeee…
Of course they did, fucking ACAB assholes.
How very…Israeli.
Nazisrael.
Ashka-Nazisraeli
Y’all really need to better draw the line between Israel and Jews, because comments like this erode the very important “criticizing Israel isn’t antisemitic” distinction. There’s absolutely no reason to point the finger at Ashkenazi Jews, an ethnic group, in our outrage over genocide committed by the Israeli state.
I get that you’re just doing wordplay, and calling Israel Nazis is fine (even if “Nazisrael” is a bit forced), but calling Ashkenazi Jews “Nazis” is just fucking hateful, and you’re giving ammo to the pro-Israel detractors when you say ignorant shit like this.
Wow it’s such a low bar and yet somehow the police always manage to sneak under it
The denied water part seems strange. Most American jails have water fountain toilet combos like this:
That is not a general population holding cell. That is the nicest jail cell I have seen.
I wouldn’t be surprised if that image is a jail for “white collar” crimes or not even in the US
The cell itself is pretty nice and non gen pop but I was more so just using it because it was one of the first pictures that popped up showing one.
The first picture you find ≠ most American jails.
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I think you and google are missing the difference between Jail, Prison, and Holding Cells. the combined unit you show is only common in Prison and long term county lvl jails; for cities/town/district jails and holding cells they may or may not even have a toilet as they are designed around an 4-8hr stay limit.
Most likely what happened is that a district detention got overwhelmed and just placed people in secure locations and lost track of them. Hanlon’s razor.
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Well it’s good to know you are a cop (BS of CJ), as it means you aren’t an engineer. Given that I have designed jails, courthouses, and police stations I can say that your BS means basically nothing in this as you are mostly trained in criminal law rather than building code.
Holding time, local building code, and CA budget are the biggest constraints for the buildings in question. 4-8hrs holding period does not require and often doesn’t get a plumbing connection.
Wtf do you mean by most?
I’ve been in cells without toilets or water. They’re designed for temporary holding (an hour or so), for things like waiting on transportation or intake, for example.
Yea and even the holding cells have those. Usually behind a half wall where it’s not really private but its sorta blocking your business.
Those sink/toilet combos are what had Dems claiming migrants were “drinking out of toilets”.
The students who were arrested and sent to jail reported to the two staff members afterwards who then reported to a reporter. All of this is third-person and we need more sources other than the students themselves.
Everyone who leaves jail complains about how poor the treatment was. Just about everyone embellishes and lies a little. Let’s not pretend that every protester is innocent: they vandalized and destroyed school property and spent a few hours in jail. They can now go back to protesting peacefully because it is their right.
Edit: are we really pretending that a student isn’t an adult? Why is the article singling out that they were in general population? They are adults and not children, right? Where are they supposed to put grown adult college students? Student jail? Did they seriously expect to be treated differently because this just sounds like they have never been to jail and are surprised to find out just how poorly prisoners are treated in this country.
Edit 2: Gosh, we really don’t like painting out that they were privileged University students that have probably never seen a jail cell and probably just didn’t want to eat the shitty jail food. I wouldn’t have eaten it either tbh.
Protests against Vietnam war destroyed far more shit. This is like the least shit destroying protest in history.
Pointless vandalism is still pointless, but at least the antiwar protests in the US were by US citizens and were primarily about opposition to US involvement in the conflict.
These protesters have unrealistic expectations and goals. Just look at the divesting demands. Due to their age, very few of these college kids understand the reality of where the money they want divested is/going/coming from. Direct investments rarely reflect the full scope of a college’s portfolio.
Trespassing, vandalism, and yelling at people is far easier that learning about economics I guess.
Funny how the divesting demands are working at several schools thus far, and funny how the violence and vandalism seem to only be happening at schools that decided to send the
jackbooted thugsPolice in to crack skulls and beat people for wrongthink.Weird how you have completely omitted the polices typical escalation and unnecessary violence from your whinging and denigration of these “kids”
User name checks out because this isn’t the flex you think it is.
Only one college, Evergreen State College, has “agreed” so far to divest any holdings linked with Israel. A few others, like Brown and Northwestern University, have simply said that they will disclose their investment exposure to Israel at a later time.
And Evergreen’s memorandum that was released by the school simply stated that the student encampment will end in exchange for the school looking into its investments and possibly divesting from Israel. ONCE MORE: Looking into & possibly divesting
These are what they call stall tactics.
And stop pretending the protestors didn’t spray paint free gaza, free palestine and intifada this and that all over the walls in the library. That’s pointless vandalism, not protesting.
How were they supposed to inform someone while being in a fucking jail cell?
Of course they can only report things afterwards.
First, the point is that the only information comes from the same students that were arrested.
Secondly, would it surprise you that everyone in jail has access to a phone?
Would it surprise you to know that that isn’t true and phone privileges are easily revoked.
This isn’t the movies, you aren’t entitled to a phone call
It is obvious that you truly have no idea what you are talking about nor have you been inside of a NY jail in any capacity. The police dont keep people from making phone calls, despite your this isnt the movies line of reasoning. It isn’t a conspiracy to silence the protestors, I promise. I’m also sure they would have reported on that so we know they weren’t prevented from making phone calls due to any security reason.
As to your statement, yes, phones calls are subject to reasonable restrictions related to security but, No, they don’t arbitrarily prevent you from using a phone. There are actual phone kiosks in NYC jails. Hell, all jail phone calls have been free since 2019 (Intro 0741, pass by NYC council) from 7am to 11pm.
Then there is New York State Assembly Bill 2023-A6484that allows inmates in state and local correctional facilities to make free, confidential phone calls to attorneys and legal service providers.
Furthermore, Chapter 11-A, Part 2, Title H, Article 120, Section 90, Subsection 8 of New York Criminal Procedural Law is the literal law that entitles anyone arrested in the state of New York to communicate by phone. (Link)
In New York, if you arrested or detained, you are legally entitled to a phone call. But please, go ahead and argue.
