• paddirn@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    So is Ukraine supposed to micromanage how each piece of equipment is being used based on how each donor country feels about attacking Russia?

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      1 month ago

      Yes. They sold the equipment under stipulations on how it will be used. If the US just gives Ukraine massive long-range offensive capabilities then Russia will treat that as a declaration of a proxy war and may attack US forces elsewhere. Or escalate in other ways. No one wants a desperate Russia. They want Russia to spend itself to death, again. And die like it did in the cold war.

      • Blackmist@feddit.uk
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        1 month ago

        Yeah, that’s what the rest of the west want, but Ukraine just want to punch Russia in the face and send them packing. They don’t have the people or morale for a full-on meat grinder war over the next decade.

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        1 month ago

        Thats just the excuse, Ukraine has not declared war on anyone despite Iran, North Korea and China providing weapons to Russia. Russia just likes to rattle and make noise and the wst constantly walks on egg sells.

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      1 month ago

      Unfortunately, yes. I assume a substantial portion of their military budget goes towards coffee and headache medication for the logistics department

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      1 month ago

      Also, how is Russia to know which bit of equipment is attacking them, and where is it from?

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        1 month ago

        Inventory Numbers, same reason we can identify us bombs used on civilian targets in Israel.

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          1 month ago

          So they have to hope they find details on fragments left. I literally have no idea of the odds on that.

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            1 month ago

            Pretty good actually.

            You should check out bomb reconstructions from terrorist incidents and compare them to contemporary investigations done on conventional bombs.

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              1 month ago

              I know it is done when there is one bomb by some nutters, but it seams labour intensive. Not sure how well it scales to warfare.

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                30 days ago

                Bombings in civilian areas are almost always investigated, is the reason Israel is refusing to let third parties in without restriction. They know if investigators get in too much will get out and they won’t be able to shake to fascist genocidal government image.

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    1 month ago

    Sounds good, but they first need to actually deliver the jets, because this is otherwise pointless.

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      “You can use our F-16s to attack deep in the russian territory.”

      “Great! Where are the F-16s?”

      “We will give them to you.”

      “Alright. We’ll be waiting.”

      jeapordy theme plays

      “Theres no F-16s coming, are there?”