• AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml
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    American gun culture grew out of murdering people and stealing their land and sustained itself on murdering people for talking to white women.

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      Not exactly. I can see why you’d say that, but Americans weren’t gun nuts until around the 1910s to 1920s. At that point the right wing decided they needed a better red herring than the Mexican Border, and started pushing the 2nd amendment bullshit they’ve been on ever since.

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            You’re still doing it. Except to be clear: you didn’t point out shit. You said some vacuous “they needed a red herring” shit about the 2nd amendment without any explanation of why they did, why they picked that, or even really who they were. And you didn’t correct shit either. Aside from an equally vacuous “You’re wrong.”

            Have something to say or shut up. Please.

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              I said what I had to say, succinctly. It’s not my fault you lack the historical knowledge, and grasp of nuance to know what I was talking about.

              You seem rather angry, might wanna cut back on the stimulants or social media.

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                I literally said the same thing you did except I said more. What are you talking about. Fucking weirdo extraordinaire.

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        Meanwhile said countries are completely reliant on USA death tools via NATO treaties because you have regulated yourselves into helplessness while Russia is at your doorstep knocking. Good luck to you if Trump is elected and backs away from defense treaties.

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          We may not need licenses for firearms but we need them for cars, heavy equipment, a ton of employment positions, but not this ranged lethal weapon that fits in your pocket

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            That’s because driving a car or operating heavy equipment are not a constitutional right written down by decree of democratically elected officials during a constitutional convention, you silly fuck.

            Regardless, your lack of broadly socially-accepted individual-level firearms training and neutered militaries will be unable to stop the unending meat waves of aggressive territory-hungry Russian rapists no matter how you play it.

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    Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary

    –Karl Marx

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      He was right about a lot of things and also wrong about a lot of things. This one falls squarely in the latter category.

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        Yes, proles. Give up your only means of fighting back. We promise your right to vote is strong enough to protect you from anything. The government that can’t keep its own cops under control will save you. Trust big brother.

        Fucking delusional.

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          What’s fucking delusional is thinking that a bunch of civilians armed with handguns and rifles could ever match a modern military should it come to violent revolution or, alternatively, that arming civilians with the kind of weaponry that WOULD do the trick isn’t just a recipe for needless slaughter.

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            Ah yes, so the only other option is to roll over, give up your freedom, and trust the government to protect you from everything. Solid logic there.

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              Nope, it categorically isn’t. That’s a strawman/false dichotomy combo so ridiculous that I doubt you’re actually sane enough to be entrusted with any weapon more dangerous than a camping spork.

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                Well I could show you my gun collection but at this point I’m fairly certain that you would just shit yourself in fear.

                Anyway, have fun being unarmed with the state of the world today. The far right will continue stockpiling weapons and you’ll be knocking on the doors of guys like me if and when they finally decide to use them.

                That’s the thing that you’re not getting bud. The far right isn’t going to be using their guns against the military or the government. They’re going to be using the guns against us.

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                  statistically speaking that gun is going in your own mouth before you ever use it to serve your community

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                  Well I could show you my gun collection but at this point I’m fairly certain that you would just shit yourself in fear.

                  Typical ammosexual trait: can’t distinguish between common sense and cowardice 🙄

                  Anyway, have fun being unarmed with the state of the world today.

                  Thanks, I am and so is the vast majority of people in a radius of 1000+ miles from me.

                  The far right will continue stockpiling weapons

                  Because ridiculously lax laws and even more lax enforcement allows them to. They’re like politicians with bribes in that aspect.

                  you’ll be knocking on the doors of guys like me if and when they finally decide to use them.

                  Nah, I think I’ll just wait indoors until someone much more emotionally stable deals with it after your Rambo wannabe antics have gotten you killed.

                  The far right isn’t going to be using their guns against the military or the government. They’re going to be using the guns against us

                  And why is that? Because of the lack of laws, regulations, and enforcement. Not because wannabe tough guys like you don’t have enough penis extenders that go boom.

                  That’s the thing that you’re not getting, “bud”