German police have used excessive force against protesters, with the latest developments including children being arrested and women facing sexual violence
German here. This is 99% sure fake news. German police is only able to even touch kids at that age to take them back to their parents. Kids up to 14 are executively immune from the law. The source is also kind of iffy. The right to protest is also enshrined in German law. As long as they are not violent they can protest all day long.
The police can shut down any protest, if it was not filed for in advance. Unless of course you protest with a tractor. The police is powerless against tractors. The hierarchy in Germany is therefore:
also german here. the demo i recently went to was cut short by police for no apparent reason.
also many others are being blocked by the cops before they get to happen.
this country is also raiding organizers homes and recently banned a group called “palästina solidarität duisburg” which organized protests as well.
and its all happening in the name of what they call “staatsräson” or some vague ideas of chants like “from the river to the sea, palestine will be free” being antisemitic.
lastly, the idea that cops give a shit abt following the law is ridiculous if u ask me
They banned many many protests in Germany (before they happened, at the permit phase). The excuse the authorities give is usually vague security concerns, and they always argue that something antisemitic or glorifying violence might be said. And they explictly define any fundamental critique of Israel as antisemitism and any positive mention or symbol of any armed resistance group as glorifying violence, but only for pro-Palestinian groups. You can show support for the IDF as much as you like, in fact providing not just symbolic support, but support in the form of actual lethal weapons is facilitated at the highest levels of the state. That is legal and encouraged. Saying “Palestine will be free.” gets you detained.
The person you replied to was solely writing about the treatment of young kids. So what you are writing is completely out of context, and, pardon me please, abdolute horseshit.
The German state’s show of support has led to an outright banning of most pro-Palestine protests. […]
The reasons for the bans seemed unambiguous: German police said that there was an “imminent danger” that the assemblies will result in “inciting, anti-Semitic slogans,” as well as “glorification of violence.”
Preemptively. Because antisemitism and “glorification of violence” might occur. And by antisemitism they mean things like this:
On October 13, Berlin police declared uttering the slogan “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” forbidden and indictable. That same day, Berlin’s education senator, Katharina Günther-Wünsch, sent a letter to all Berlin school principals offering them the option to ban students from wearing “pro-Palestinian symbols such as the keffiyeh.” “Any act or expression of opinion that can be understood as advocacy or approval of the attacks against Israel,” she wrote, “constitutes a threat to school peace and is prohibited.”
German here. This is 99% sure fake news. German police is only able to even touch kids at that age to take them back to their parents. Kids up to 14 are executively immune from the law. The source is also kind of iffy. The right to protest is also enshrined in German law. As long as they are not violent they can protest all day long.
The police can shut down any protest, if it was not filed for in advance. Unless of course you protest with a tractor. The police is powerless against tractors. The hierarchy in Germany is therefore:
Tractor > Bureaucracy > Police > You and Me
also german here. the demo i recently went to was cut short by police for no apparent reason.
also many others are being blocked by the cops before they get to happen.
this country is also raiding organizers homes and recently banned a group called “palästina solidarität duisburg” which organized protests as well.
and its all happening in the name of what they call “staatsräson” or some vague ideas of chants like “from the river to the sea, palestine will be free” being antisemitic.
lastly, the idea that cops give a shit abt following the law is ridiculous if u ask me
I hate that so few people do not get that anti zionism is not anti semitic, fucking all or nothing thinking, makes me angry 😤
Like, as if i’m not allowed to hate war fanatics just because they happen to be jews?!
Fuck all religion.
What you’re saying is absolute horseshit.
They banned many many protests in Germany (before they happened, at the permit phase). The excuse the authorities give is usually vague security concerns, and they always argue that something antisemitic or glorifying violence might be said. And they explictly define any fundamental critique of Israel as antisemitism and any positive mention or symbol of any armed resistance group as glorifying violence, but only for pro-Palestinian groups. You can show support for the IDF as much as you like, in fact providing not just symbolic support, but support in the form of actual lethal weapons is facilitated at the highest levels of the state. That is legal and encouraged. Saying “Palestine will be free.” gets you detained.
The person you replied to was solely writing about the treatment of young kids. So what you are writing is completely out of context, and, pardon me please, abdolute horseshit.
Check again what the parent poster said:
Which is what I replied to, and which is clearly not true, they ban nonviolent protests all the time.
source?
Tons. This on is from Oct 30 in The Nation:
Preemptively. Because antisemitism and “glorification of violence” might occur. And by antisemitism they mean things like this:
Germany has no laws it has Zionism. Judges have ruled multiple actions from the German police illegal such as the banning of a speaker.