• Fugtig Fisk@feddit.dk
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      The problem with the Israeli attacks i gaza is not the attacks themselves. Israel should have the right to defend themselves on all sides.

      The problem is, that in Palestine they are using this as an excuse to kill as many civilians as they can get away with. This is genocide. They are more or less regulating the population of Palestine, and arguing that they in reality are fighting Hamas. The civilians are unfortunate accidents (that more or less keep on happening day in and day out)

      • Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Because cowering behind civilians in the hopes their deaths garner sympathy is totally not in the terrorist handbook

        • iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com
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          If a serial killer runs into a school you don’t bomb the school. Well, I wouldn’t consider it justified, but apparently Israelis do.

          • Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            When there are literally thousands of serial killers and the school was declared closed but filled with children to protect the serial killers it is justified at this point because to negotiate with terrorists itself promotes these tragedies. A school gets flattened so a dozen others might live. The greater good.

            • ebits21@lemmy.ca
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              2 months ago

              lol no it’s still not justified to kill a bunch of innocent kids.

              • Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                So if the only way to save your children was to pull a lever to have the trolley hit another child who happens to also be throwing rocks at yours you’d not pull it? You’d watch your children get run over to save the life of a hostile child? How believable you sound.

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                    2 months ago

                    I mean, they are even referenced as throwing stones (a… gasp hostile act) in your fellow terrorist warcrime supporter’s links, but you continue to believe what you want.

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                Whenever I’m curious about how people got in the frame of mind to support the Nazis, I just have to see those kinds of comments to remember how. Some people haven’t evolved past that dehumanization apparently.

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                  That dude has Ukraine flag too… You would think that he would known what it means to be an underdod getting raw dawged.

                  It ain’t like Israel is a Ukrainian or Canadian ally, well maybe Canada not sure tho

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              I do not support Israel.

              But if you’re referring to Hamas, I don’t support them either; as I clearly said I don’t support the killing of innocent people. Even if that is in response to the murder of innocent people.

              Hamas suck, As does the Israeli government and anybody that supports their actions over the last 9/10 months and even longer than that to be honest.

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      People have been warning from day 1 about the possibility of a regional escalation.

      Apparently you cannot spend months acting in a way that neighboors who already don’t like you find morally reprehensible without some of those neighbors inserting themselves into the conflict.

      The real question is how long can Iran avoid getting dragged into that. And if Iran gets involved directly, will we be able to contain this to a regional war, or will this small decades old conflict between parties whose total population is only about 12 million become the trigger for world war 3.

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        God I hope so. I had a dream once that the entirety of the land between the black sea and the gulf of aden was glassed smooth, and finally the world was at peace.

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        It’s less the people and more the trade routes and resources. Some would argue the most important in the world

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        How is a state that’s largely funded by another state not a proxy for the bigger state? It’s not a Israel Iran proxy war. It’s a us Iran proxy war

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          Iran has been supplying the Houthis, Hezbollah, and Hamas with munitions, intel, and training to support attacks on Israel.

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              Israel is a sovereign nation. According to international law, they are held responsible for their actions. The same law does not apply to independent rebel groups, putting the responsibility on Iran.

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                If Israel can declare itself a sovereign nation on another peoples land there is no reason rebel groups cannot call themselves legitimate rulers. Anyone can call themselves anything.

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            Most of their money and support is coming through Lebanon. And the Moussad is injecting massive ammounts of graft into the Lebanese government in order to destabilize it.

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              Yeah Russia does this trick. Ukraine is still funding the war against itself but traitors are able to operate within the state.

              This shit is cancer