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For people that don’t know this is not how you use Calipers

  • PeutMieuxFaire@kbin.social
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    Wow! That’s a creative way to use a caliper.
    That’s why teaching children about metrology basics is so important.

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    I want to wholeheartedly believe the caliper has the size the customer wants and the pipe is bigger, therefore inappropriate. I’ve never met anyone who would use a caliper this way, I’ve seen people trying to eyeball it or use it as a ruler but not like this

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    Oh jeebus fucking christ. Sometimes the dumb hurts and then you get the existential dread knowing you’re about to have to call this moron. And, even better, they usually make more money than you.

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    I am a certified blithering idiot and even I feel like a high society intellectual compared to this picture.

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    I remember when I first applied for a job in a fabrication/machine shop. One of the questions in the interview was “Do you know how to read a tape measure‽” followed by “demonstrate that you can use a tape measure” along with some other fun ones like “what is the difference between these two pieces of material” (one was aluminum, the other stainless) and other such things. I remember being surprised/disappointed that there were grown people who couldn’t read a tape measure.

    I’ve worked in machine shops and drafting offices for years now, and I’m no longer surprised by people who can’t use basic measuring tools. Still disappointed though.

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      There’s a great test for programmers called FizzBuzz. It’s an extremely easy task - print some numbers (maybe 1 to 100), but replace them with Fizz if they’re divisible by 3, by Buzz if they’re divisible by 5, or by FizzBuzz if they’re both.

      Many reasonable people consider it way too easy - if you can write this, it doesn’t mean that you can write complex programs, or that you know the applicable languages, or that you know anything about the business domain.

      But interviewers know that it’s a great test because a lot of so-called programmers still fail it.

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        We did a fizzbuzz interview with a candidate. He passed but I had a weird feeling about it so we asked him to do another one with 7 and 21 and he couldn’t do it even with his old code right there

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          Damn, dude managed to literally memorize code without having any idea of what was going on. Meanwhile, I’d spend most of my time trying to figure whether it’s div or mod that i’m supposed to use to check for the remainder of a division, I always forget which is which

        • Croquette@sh.itjust.works
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          It’s good for a young dev IMO because that problem has many solutions and shows the programming style of the dev as well. But I agree that having a problem that is related to the actual work is better.

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          It is great because it allows you to eliminate bad candidates very quickly. It can’t be the only test, but it’s very useful as the first one.

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        I very much prefer every product of multiplication of 9 up to 3000 in a descending order.

        Ypu get to see a lot more than the fizzbuzz. And still very easy task. Then you can ask about processing and memory optimizations.

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      OK - now I’m curious, what were the most common mistakes people made reading a tape measurer? Because I’m having trouble working out how someone could screw that up lol

      • CADmonkey@lemmy.world
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        We had a guy we called “10/16” (ten sixteenths) because he was told to grab some 5/8" (0.625" or 16mm) steel plate, but he couldn’t find any he could only find 10/16" and 12/16".

        People will count the little lines on the tape and not remember if they are 1/32, 1/16, or 1/8.

        I think metric would help this.

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          I worked with a girl who would say “4 and 3 ticks!” meaning 1/8ths. We laughed at her enough that she tried to improve and started saying “4 point 3!” that lead to a discussion about decimal inches. I really blew her mind when I showed her the scale in 12ths on carpenter squares.

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      After having a customer chew us out for something that wasn’t our fault he had us follow him to another room to discuss some more work. He borrows my tape measure and tries to measure something on the wall and the tape keeps falling over and flexing. It finally hits him in the face and hands it back to me and says “I’m not familiar with this type of tool”. I think he saw our faces turn red and eyes water up as we were trying SOOO hard not to laugh.

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    They were trying to design a caliper holder that fits the jaws in that orientation, obviously. They need to fix this, send it back.

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    A normal set of calipers has 3 basic modes of measuring things: inside, outside, and depth. It is amazing to me how many people in this thread don’t know at least one of those or use them wrong.

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      Til the calipers I use, almost daily, can measure depth. Now I’m less annoyed about the stick protruding from the end lmao

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      Tbf I use mine daily and had to pause a second thinking what would be the third mode. (never use it to measure depth)

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      At least it makes me feel good that I only just got a set for the first time last week and figured all those out within 5 min of actually using them.

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      You can also use the top back side to measure steps. It’s more precise than using the depth gauge.

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      Tbf people my age and younger (barely below 1/2 the population) typically don’t use them in most careers or even learn about calipers in High School. My work was the first place that properly taught me how to measure internal diameter and depth.

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    please close and reverse the tool, then grip it tightly and drive it into the skull of the complaining customer

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    Showed this pic to my co workers (steelworkers/blacksmiths) and only the old guys knew what was funny about the pic… Gen z think that calipers are toy guns…

    • lutillian@sh.itjust.works
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      I dunno, a lot of gen z and millennials probably use them when fabricating parts for things that you can’t get them for. I know I do for my printer.

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        Well… im an old millennial and know what it is and how to use it properly…

    • pancakes@sh.itjust.works
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      I use calipers frequently and didn’t realize it was upsidedown until reading this.

      I thought it was a joke about clients always sending shitty low resolution pictures where you can’t actually verify their claim.

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        Realistically, how many people need calipers in their life? The vast majority never used one because a ruler or tape is enough for pretty much anything in a house.

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    This just tells me calipers should have 2 measuring bars on them, so gaps and other inside edges can be measured like this (maybe this already exists, idak)

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      That’s what the two prongs at the top are for. Flip the caliper upside down, use the prongs to measure the inside dimension, and read it off the same scale.

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          “Caliper jaws for inside measurement—I thought of that. Turned out it already existed, but I arrived at it independently."

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            I think the guy was actually referring to something a bit different, that is having a second number scale on the caliper that is offset by the width of the first jaw, so you can use the outside jaws for measuring inside dimensions. I don’t think that would work, however.

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              The Seconds scale Sounds Like a good Idea till you mess up everything due to using the wrong one. I once had a Spirit Level that was for plumbers and had a Second bubble-level built in that was even when the Level was tiltet to about 1.5 degree, great for waste-lines and gutters. Now everything in my House ist tilted by 1.5 degree except the plumbing and gutters.

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              I was indeed (and I think you’re right, the calipers would need at least to be parallel on their outer edges to work this way).

              I’m not sure what rz2000 was doing by (slightly wrongly) rewording basically what I wrote — I get the impression they think I was being full of myself for thinking of a (similar) concept that already exists (despite conceding that it already might) and felt the need to put me back in place.

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      Can’t tell if I’m missing a joke here, but see those two small knife looking protruding from the opposite side (above) where they’re measuring, those are used for measuring internal diameter.

      The side they’re using is for outer diameter.

      And though you can’t see it in the pic, the thin bit of metal that extends out from the bottom can be used for measuring depth.