• agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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    22 days ago

    glad to see you come around.

    I didn’t come around, that was always my view. We disagree on relative degree.

    Are meager, nominal concessions enough?

    Who said anything about “enough”? Again, relative degree. Meager, nominal concessions are better than Christo-fascism.

    The idea that Dems put the kid gloves on when dealing with genuine threats to the status quo is woefully naiive.

    I never said that. Their gloves are the same, but the Republicans are wearing brass knuckles.

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      22 days ago

      And yet you can’t explain how Dems are easier to overthrow than Reps. You keep saying that you can get minor concessions out of Dems, but that doesn’t mean they treat Leftists any less violently.

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        22 days ago

        The very same tepid institutionalism that prevents them from boldly accomplishing anything is exactly what makes them a more favorable enemy. Republicans don’t care about the institutions at all, they’ll install a Christo-fascist ethnostate the exact moment they have the opportunity.

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          22 days ago

          Yes, this is utterly unsupported by historical treatment of leftist movements by dems. The tepid institutionalism comes off when dealing with threats to Capital.

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            22 days ago

            Except for opposing cuts to social services, backing progressive taxation and capital gains tax increases, regulation of financial markets, workers rights, unions, minimum wage increases, etc.

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              22 days ago

              So again, conflating tepid social reforms with Leftist movement. You need to go back to the drawing board.

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                22 days ago

                Those are all transitory policies between capitalism and Leftism. One party supports them, the other opposes them. It’s not enough, but it’s a better starting point.