Also, fuck xfinity and their BS. Can’t even change wifi password without downloading an app.

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    I’ve been using the internet since 1996. Newsgroups is about all that was good back then. Oh and email.

    Chrome has become the new IE6 and Google the Microsoft of the internet.

    Today is a bit of a low point, but I don’t think there was any perfect time.

    Flash was a major issue during a lot of the “golden years” people are romanticizing. ActiveX was also, and still is, an issue for some parts of the world. Silverlight as well to a lesser extent

    If there were any golden years, they probably were when the big three had similar market share between 2009 and 2014. But it was clear what was happening over those years, Chrome was eating IE and waning FF.

    Yes apps are bad news.

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      I think people romanticize Flash because of all the fun games you could play at Newgrounds, ArmorGames etc, that’s where nostalgia hits hard. It’s easy to forget the hoards of very shitty sites that didn’t need Flash at all, but were entirely made in it because fuck you. Adobe buying Macromedia definitely didn’t help with performance or security.

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        I heard it rumoured it was written in 32bit x86 and was a mess. That meant porting it to ARM was basically a rewrite. There are open source rewrites. But nothing would ever play everything the same. Flash was riddled with security flaws of both format and implication. Adobe joined im killing it became it was a risk to Adobe not at an asset. Despite it’s dominance at the time.

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      I was gonna post IE6. Internet technology was stagnated for a few years until Firefox lit a fire under everyone’s ass.

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          Mozilla is funded by Microsoft so they can point to it and say “we’re not a monopoly look at this other browser”. Literally the same reason apple exists. We aren’t getting an open market we’re getting bought and paid for fake competition.

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          I’m skeptical that a FF with a majority market share would continue to be as user-centric as it is now. Honestly I sort of hope that a third option comes out, but FF is my go to option for now.

          I’ve lost faith in Google (nod to your username) for sure - in general I miss disruption, everyone used to believe they could do it better so no one shied away from the idea of building a better browser engine or any other technology for that matter.

          Google stopped making decisions in the best interest of anyone other than their shareholders a long time ago.

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            I don’t really think the current setup is too bad. Chromium being open source means anyone can fork it and make their own better browser without having to write everything from scratch.

            Personally, I use Vivaldi. To the best of my knowledge Google can’t spy on me, they have plans for mitigating Manifest V3, and it has many useful extra features such as tab splitting and separate workspaces. It’s made to be super customizable and from my experience the interface stays mostly the same between updates - something that annoyed me a lot about Chrome/Firefox. It can be a little rough around the edges sometimes, but I love using it.

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      For most cases, yes, people should get their own equipment, but for me, I’m on a government subsidized internet plan and my equipment is free.

      But if we no longer qualify for this in the future, then yea, we’ll get our own equipment.