Honestly, the insistence that Lemmy has better discussions than Reddit. Mostly even popular posts have too few comments to constitute any in depth discussion. I won’t be going back to Reddit but I miss the vibrancy.
This platform is almost 100% idealism and politics. Any hobby/technical community goes completely inactive.
Tankies.
You can’t have a discussion about anything without some tankie blaming it on Ukrainians / the west / capitalism, etc.
“Oh you stubbed your toe on the table? See, tables are oppressive furniture of the bourgeoisie. The Chinese government wanted to make all tables toe-stubbing resistent, but that would affect IKEA’s bottom line and the pharmaceutical industry’s profits. I have a source from tankiepeoplesmagazine to back this up.”
Omg, so much this. So fucking annoying.
What’s equally annoying is people who won’t shut up about “tankies.”
Honestly, everyone across this argument sucks. But I wold like to point out, that not a single “tankie” has complained about anything in the comments here.
You, however….
this is a thread specifically for complaining about stuff you don’t like.
don’t be so butthurt about it.
The funny thing is that u/Pratai@lemmy.ca is in lemmy.ca which defederated hexbear and lemmygrad so he won’t see the annoying tankies.
Wouldn’t care if I did. Because I don’t care what other people are into.
Yea, I’m with you … the most “annoying” think about tankies is all of the noise about them as though they’re some degenerate scum bringing down society.
It’s not hard to move past a political opinion you don’t like, or a big and hairy political debate you don’t have time/energy for. But it doesn’t mean a whole bunch of people have to be shunned/exiled because they happen to trigger your inability to do so … or that you have to whine about their presence all of the time.
Shrugging off extremist views as “just a political opinion” that should be ignored if you don’t like it is like the #1 way to normalize and spread extremist views. You do not, and should not, politely ignore extremist. Doing so is explicitly allowing and inviting more into your community. Tankies can fuck off and I will continue to say so.
Well, the way I see it is that tankies are pretty much a minority without any power in the west, and, at least the ones I’ve seen around here, aren’t actively organising any sort of violent revolutionary behaviour or anything … which means their views tend to always be critiques of the powerful western governments and mainstream cultures form the perspectives of minorities, and often in ways that many in the mainstream find unpalatable, and therefore unconvincing. So, even if “extreme” (whatever you mean by that exactly) in some way, it’s a “punching up” kind of “extreme” that I’m open minded to hearing, however agreeable or disagreeable I tend to find their opinions.
Do you really think tankies are convincing? This thread, at least, indicates otherwise. So much “extremism” are they going to be spreading? IMO, the sort of “extremism” much more likely to spread is the sort of stuff driven by hate of some sort of “other” weaker and smaller than the mainstream as a scapegoat, not least because it’s more amenable to the worldview(s) of the larger and more powerful majority.
The “extremist views” I’m talking about is the support for authoritarian regimes that use draconian laws and excessive military force to enforce the law. Tankies often do support the subjugation of people they deem “lesser”, but unlike extremist on the far right, they often keep that part quiet.
The fact that you’re downplaying the extremity of Tankie talking points is a perfect example of how they are able to normalize their opinions by being allowed a voice in groups where their opinions should be shunned and shamed.
This is a great breakdown of the exact thing I’m talking about.. The video focuses on these tactics and how they are used by the alt-right, but this is not something exclusive to the right and is exactly what tankies are doing on lemmy.
People who support the Russian invasion of Ukraine and the CCP’s violations of human rights ARE degenerate scum bringing down society.
I am never going to stop whining about their presence.
I’m left on the political spectrum but by and large y’all fuckers are over the deep end.
All the empty communities without any motivation from the creating user to actually be involved in their own community. I honestly think they should be deleted if they’re not active. Inb4 “be the change/create your own”. No, I don’t want to run a community so I don’t create a community. Neither should you. Nobody benefits from all these empty reservations of space. It might actually hinder the people who have a need for a community. It’s like showing up at an empty store. “Oh I guess I’ll go somewhere else for this then”
Political extremists. So about the same as Reddit, though they seem to be a little more frequent/outspoken here. Also funnily enough the complete opposite side of the spectrum. Used to get called a dirty commie because I believed in Nationalized healthcare, but now I’m apparently a facist for not worshipping the CCP.
Not the users but lemmy itself. Sorting by hot is pointless since you see the same post for days at a time. I get lemmy is small but shit it can’t be that hot for that many days.
Bots copy pasting content from Reddit.
There are community filled only with that, no upvotes, no comment, no nothing.
When you finally block the bot those communities disappear as the bot is the only active user.
The defederation topic and how it impacts me.
I’m an adult, if I find something offensive I’ll either block it or ignore it. However, not giving me the choice offends me and IMHO goes against what Lemmy and the fediverse was suppose to deliver.
I understand (and read) the reason’s why site owners defederate and I view it largely as “Lemmy isn’t mature enough to support more granular blocking - yet”, so I wait patiently and hope this trend towards defederation doesn’t turn into a powertrip by site owners “for the good of their users…”
Imo, defederation isn’t the exile sentence everyone is making out to be. It is used like you said as a bandaid as a moderation tool, but really just about “anyone” can boot up an instance and have complete agency on which Instances are visible.
I’d be more concerned if all the big instances ganged up together to form a whitelist club, but this this is a more complex discussion, and there is no sign of it happenning.
Depends on the reason for me. I totally get why .world blocked those 3 communities (not a defed I know but still) given the possible legal issues and given the admin isn’t a lawyer and can’t afford to retain a high powered legal team. Blocking those communities until they have a legal opinion just seems like good sense to me.
The hexbear thing - they’re evangelical totalitarians politically. They believe what they believe and everything they talk about revolves around that and they need you to hear it, again and again and again. It’s just mentally exhausting dealing with them, especially when a large part of their freely admitted m.o. is brigading/dog-piling.
Being fedded with lemmynsfw didn’t bother me, I hardly ever saw anything from it as I rarely feel the need to go on ‘All’. I understand there were some anime jailbait issues? That’s probably a pretty good reason to defed from an instance.
So, and this is admittedly all from my perspective, I haven’t seen any overbearing uses of defedding.
And I think people need to realise defedding is not like banning. On reddit if a sub got banned it was gone. On Lemmy if one instance defeds from another, the other instance is still there. You still have the choice to view it.
The sheer amount of pro-communist/pro-china comments is insane here. Plus the number of giant emojis that spam up the whole comment feed. Honestly, most of my real issues come down strictly to Hexbear users. A lot of their behavior completely ruins the platform for me.
That and the lack of fanbases for the things I like. There’s very little Star Wars or Halo fan presence here. Feels like Star Trek is the only fandom with any presence here, so I have to go back to reddit for those things.
The sheer amount of pro-communist/pro-china comments is insane here
It’s been increasingly noticeable for me. That and the Linux die-hards (can see why the “how to tell someone’s a Linux fan” meme exist now)
I’m in the same boat with communities as well. Very little for stuff like Destiny or Game Dev, and even when those communities exist they’re typically a lot lower in quality.
Only reason I haven’t gone back to reddit as my main site is because the mobile app is actually as bad as people say. But I’ve been visiting reddit communities via web browser a lot more frequently over the past fortnight.
I’m a socialist but the level of communism here gives me a headache. Wish I could block the whole hexbear instance
Some apps for Lemmy support blocking whole instances. Both Connect and Sync does.
Blocking hexbear has made my Lemmy experience much more pleasant
Start up your own private instance and defederate hexbear.
I would if I could but unfortunately I’m way too lazy for that
Lol not sure why you’re downvoted, it’s a legit concern. Running a lemmy instance is a lot more work than “just set it up once”
It’s really not. Run it in Docker on your home PC. You don’t need to moderate any users because you don’t need to have any users on your instance. It quite literally is “just set it up once,” defederate instances you don’t like, and occasionally upgrade the software like you do any other app.
That being said, a few Lemmy apps now support blocking entire instances, so that IS more simple than it was even a few weeks ago.
I have a sense that the islands (instances) are concentrating/amplifying more extreme views echo chamber style. I’m sure it was there on reddit too… but I feel like I am exposed to more far right and far left viewpoints that are presented in a toxic/offensive manner on lemmy. It happened occasionally on Reddit but it is daily on lemmy. I am browsing All to find new content and not really liking what I find.
Yeah, I think it is a consequence of the nature of federation like you said (not saying federation is bad, of course)
At Reddit, everyone had to coexist and conform to the overarching group of admins and site-wide policies, whereas anyone on Lemmy, should they find the admins of an instance too restrictive, can just make a new instance that allows for whatever extreme they desire.
Thankfully, a lot of the major instances like lemmy.world seem to be closer to the middle- still biased one way or another, but not nearly to the extremes of Lemmygrad or Exploding Heads
So I couldn’t help myself, and looked at a bit of your posting history.
Gotta say, you seem a bit angsty. If you have opinions different from what’s mainstream here (though I’m not sure arguments about Linux are really mainstream, even here), that’s all well and good, and a decent enough reason to not enjoy your time here.
But your engagement seems somewhat anger driven, and that seems to colour your challenges here, where feeling like you’re the lone voice of wisdom seems to fuel your angst.
Snooping post history is a red flag, mam. Pretty low, and not a Reddit feature I’m particularly keen on retaining.
So what if I spend all my time posting pornographic images of King Richard the third? Not really relevant to the argument at hand, is it?
In this case it was relevant. And I wasn’t looking to nor did I cast any aspersions or generalisations based on any quirky or strange post behaviour. I only sought to understand what kind of negative experiences OP had with lemmy.
It’s creepy. Comment history should only be searchable by Admin for the purpose of evaluating a ban IMO.
I hear you and sympathise. Here on the fediverse, privacy isn’t really a thing and you’re best off thinking of this is a big connected public blog, as problematic or undesirable as that may be.
