65% of U.S. adults say the way the president is elected should be changed so that the winner of the popular vote nationwide wins the presidency.

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    1 year ago

    I’m 100% okay with the 2 senators per state thing. That’s a feature, not a bug. Even though cities are on the right side of history right now, I don’t want to completely silence the rural vote forever.

    However, arbitrarily limiting the number of House reps is absolutely absurd and counter to the purpose of the House. That is a bug.

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      Well, then, maybe we should start considering splitting up some states and joining others together then. A place like California is more future-minded and it’s where a great deal of the people are, as well as much of our economy. Also, it’s where a lot of our food is grown. And it gets 2 Senators.

      The 2 Dakotas have more than that, and what do they really represent for the future of America and the world? More fracking?

      Maybe states with really large masses and hardly anyone in them are combined. Idaho, Montana and Wyoming - one state. North Dakota, South Dakota and Nebraska, another.

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        Again, you’re intentionally defeating the purpose of the Senate. The entire point is to give rural, less populous areas more of a voice.

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            That’s why we are supposed to have House members representative of pure population, and not land. Senate gives more power to rural areas, House gives more power to urban areas. It’s supposed to even out. Checks and balances.

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          It feels like a compromise from a period of time that is no longer relevant to these times when we are trying to push this country into the future. I don’t want rural regions to have more of a voice, FFS. Look at what it is doing to this country. Having fewer people have an equal say with the majority of the people is also not great, the majority should win out. Why the fuck should tracts of land be voting?

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            We should never completely silence the voice of a group of people for all time, even if right now they're pushing some heinous shit.

            Part of the reason for the phenomenon of Trump was the failure of politicians to care about the legitimate problems that rural voters have.

            In any case, if the House and Electoral College functioned like they should, the majority would win a lot more often. Don't focus on the Senate, focus on the two institutions that weren't designed to give rural people an outsized choice but have been manipulated to do so.

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          1 year ago

          That’d be an easier sell if the rural areas less consistently used their voice to shit up the world.

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            1 year ago

            True, but it’s not always guaranteed to be that way. We should never give one group absolute power.

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              To be honest bud, your point of view is very frustrating in the times we live, but it is an extremely sound argument and I begrudgingly can get behind it.