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Just thought I’d drop in to say, it’s possible to play it with your feet.
Just thought I’d drop in to say, it’s possible to play it with your feet.
Yeah that would be very difficult to implement safely, and probably wouldn’t be worth the effort since the Federated model means that signing up for an account somewhere on the Fediverse is much easier already.
Anonymous posting might have been a necessary evil on the early internet before you had all these Federated servers, but nowadays having other servers fills the role of granting easier access since you can sign up to another one where that process may be easier.
Forgejo having Federation enabled would be great since it would allow people with Codeberg accounts to contribute in self-hosted repos without having to apply or beg for accounts on them just to submit issues and pulls.
I agree, peer tube’s biggest issues so far besides the storage or the fact that there are almost no peer tube servers which offer user accounts (which isn’t needed explicitly to watch videos but makes the experience much better), and also the fact that there aren’t really any good apps to use it with that aren’t outdated or abandoned.
It’s not really that fundamentally different from the idea of Lemmy, the interface is just different but the idea of having communities and posts in the communities is the same.
The thing that would be tricky and would probably have the most friction would be anonymous posting since that’s where things get really ugly regarding moderation and user conduct, since a good amount are just going to be spammers and many others will be trolls and malicious users.
Trying to avoid people seeing it because they’ll get more backlash and probably lose donators and rightfully so. These types of knee-jerk reactions combined with the refusal to address feedback are very concerning.
Well you see, since Lemmy.world is a large instance, the vast majority of the Lemmy network actually. Such decisions ultimately affect everyone else because they slash your engagement severely in all affected communities.
So even on other instances the decisions of a behemoth like lemmy.world can still affect users there, in way more indirect and annoying ways.
Yup, and this time it seems like they’re getting more support from the community than downvotes (or they’re upvoting their own post).
Just got to hope that Canonical will host all of the software for it on their Snap repository (singular) I don’t think they’d object to it but that is a big issue with snap, you can’t add other repositories and the server code isn’t open source.
Sister and Nephews had the flu (still do, it’s really bad) so I ended up just staying home and having a video call with them. Sister took a COVID test strip and it’s negative, so seems like it’s just the flu but it still sucks for her.
So I’d say the flu ruined Christmas this year. At least I didn’t get sick 🤞
Refusing to wear a sweater, jacket, hat, or gloves when it’s bitterly cold out. They claimed that “real men endure the cold” and tried to say that wearing warm clothes to stay warm makes you “Womanly”.
Nothing more manly than hypothermia and frostbite am I right guys? /s
That is a fair point, and I would agree if the only people calling for threads defederation were the snowflakes (the overly sensative opininated users you speak of). However many people have highlighted important reasons why threads federation isn’t a good idea.
Reasons such as:
So while there are some bad and dumb reasons people argue for defederation there are legitimate concerns over this and threads.
I feel like the sensitive snowflake users ruin it for people who have legitimate and valid concerns, they undermine efforts to make spaces better because people are so used to dealing with them that when a person brings up something that could be a problem or should be addressed the default response is to dismissively just tell them to block users or instances, under the assumption that a user is one of those snowflakes. (It happened back with the Rammy situation, when the user posted to alert the fediverse that their instance was rogue).
Personally I feel like there should be more severity when it comes to users who make false/opinionated claims so that any claims in general aren’t treated as false or non-credible by default, but I also realize that would be difficult given the size of the instance and also isn’t really my pace to decide since I’m not responsible for user moderation outside of my own communities or ones I mod in.
Just some things to think about. Also sorry for the late response, been having trouble on my Lemmy app. I guess better late than never though (lot of times it is never when I’m late to check or respond).
Also Technology Connections.
From the changelog:
Users can now block instances. Similar to community blocks, it means that any posts from communities which are hosted on that instance are hidden. However the block doesn’t affect users from the blocked instance, their posts and comments can still be seen normally in other communities.
Not how instance blocking seems to work in 0.19, it’s the equivalent of community blocking, won’t affect users or their posts. So not a replacement to defederation or moderation.
This stance is very weird since it implies that users are entitled to something on a server we don’t own or control, but really we’re as entitled to federation as we are to these accounts. An admin can ban your account off their server forever because they felt like it, and those same admins can defederate your favorite server for the same reason. The difference between the fediverse and social media is that there are other instances with different rules you can go, and different federation stances. Your freedom is having other options.
Plus this is made even easier given that Lemmy now has a native way to export user settings in 0.19, which definitely does make life much easier for those who wish to migrate.
From the changelog:
Users can now export their data (community follows, blocklists, profile settings), and import it again on another instance. This can be used for account migrations and also as a form of backup. The export format is designed to remain unchanged for a long time. You can make regular exports, and if the instance becomes unavailable, register a new account and import the data. This way you can continue using Lemmy
Want to say this because the release notes make it perfectly clear. Instance blocking is not and cannot be considered an alternative to defederation.
Users can now block instances. Similar to community blocks, it means that any posts from communities which are hosted on that instance are hidden. However the block doesn’t affect users from the blocked instance, their posts and comments can still be seen normally in other communities.
Not a replacement for defederation, it’s still needed to keep instances healthy. Plus the fact that Lemmy doesn’t really even have blocks, they’re just mutes called blocks (which are only useful under the assumption that the blocked account is innocent, and the blocker is just having a fit or doesn’t have credibility), if we had a way to restrict malicious users then I would say being more hands off isn’t that bad but as it stands there isn’t so defederation and moderation is still important and can’t be substituted with blocking.
Kind of like Imgur, it’s a barebones Image hosting server which is what Lemmy uses to serve images uploaded to the instance. It makes it easier otherwise people would need to use things like catbox or imgur itself to host images.
I do feel like support could be better with it though, like if it gave us an interface where we could access our images from our account, or at the very least one for admins.
If enough people that they want to follow give them the “mastodon.social treatment” as I’m calling it (which basically means rejecting them based on being on an instance with a bad reputation) they might, they also might not. I know plenty of people who choose to stay on Mastodon.social even though they’re limited by lots of servers and users for spam. Same would probably happen with threads. Though I imagine there will be significantly more animosity towards threads than mastodon.social because threads is not just a bot infested mastodon instance, it’s run by Facebook.
Yeah I know plenty of instances limit them making follows approval only. I also saw this line on a person’s profile: “if you follow me from mastodon.social I won’t approve your requests, migrate to a different instance”.
I think the main reason is because mastodon.social has a lot of spam (or has had it in the past) though I’m sure that the threads issue and the fact that they want to federate and encourage federation with threads probably isn’t going to help.
They certainly have the choice to migrate. If they don’t want to it’s their problem. Fediverse wasn’t meant to be a wide open connect with anyone anywhere unconditionally network, if you want that go to Nostr (it’s filled with Right wing trolls and crypto/nft bros for that very reason). It’s meant to allow for instances to communicate and share content while still being run independently of one another. That also includes the ability to block other servers.
I find it strange that many people here are against this when the alternative is a surgical treatment that often can’t be easily reversed, and even when it is, often lowers the likelihood they will have a kid.
Chemical solutions are way better in that regard because if they are done right they don’t damage any tissue and their affects are temporary.