• SCB@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    They want peace, so they invaded Israel and murdered 1,000 people.

    Makes sense

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      8 months ago

      If this aint a cassus belli I dont know what it is.

      In any case any organization that starts a war like that needs to be destroyed. There is no other way. If hammas isnt destroyed they wont hesitate to kill 3000 in a few years.

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      8 months ago

      So many people seem to have no ability to retain memories. Hamas calls for ceasefire in 2014., uses that time to rearm and relaunch another strike on Israel while ceasefire is still going on. Hamas calls for ceasefire in 2023., this time Israel refuses and everyone goes…aaaah murderers. What the actual fuck people?

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        8 months ago

        Hamas calls for ceasefire in 2014., uses that time to rearm and relaunch another strike on Israel while ceasefire is still going on.

        Did the ceasefire include lifting the blockade? If no then it’s meaningless.

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        8 months ago

        This person was literally saying that Hamas is seeking peace.

        Did you like, not read the comments or what’s up?

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          8 months ago

          I didn’t say Hamas are good guys. But the idea that Hamas doesn’t want peace or that peace with Hamas is impossible is now nothing more than a bold-faced Israeli lie.

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            8 months ago

            https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/status/1717359090576322586?t=JHYmtvwLySR9VnQ0pNCeQQ&s=19

            Plus you know the 1500 people they murdered and 125,000 they displaced.

            Hamas doesn’t want peace. Hamas was genocide against Israel.

            Peace with Hamas is literally impossible. They are a terror organization pretending to be a government.

            https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/gaza-plagued-poverty-hamas-no-shortage-cash-come-rcna121099

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              When did Hamas displace people?

              Also of course Hamas doesn’t want Israel to launch a large-scale operation into the Gaza strip. Nobody with two brain cells does.

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                No, Hamas wants genocide against Israelis and to set up a Muslim caliphate.

                They steal money from the Palestinian people. They’re thieves, murderers, and rapists, and view all Palestinians as expendable

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                They would if it would get other Arab nations into the war and result in the destruction of Israel.

                The problem a lot of people seem to have with this conflict is they want it to be very simple, Palestine existing in a vacuum where they’re just trying to live normal lives… That’s not really the ground reality, it’s a nexus of complex bullshit with crazy influences from all sides and centuries long power struggles.

                It sucks for people living there but it’s not a reality we can hand wave away

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      8 months ago

      They’re a violent resistance group. Doesn’t mean they wanna continue fighting indefinitely. Not defending the murder of civilians, but the implication that they don’t want peace is wrong.

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        8 months ago

        That’s an absurd statement.

        By the same reasoning, the Nazis wanted peace.