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  • No1@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    You’re aware that leftists can also be authoritarian, right?

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      1 year ago

      The definition of right wing politics is being pro-hierarchy. Or believing hierarchy and inequality to be normal. This fits well with authoritarianism.

      The left, by definition, wants to end inequality, or make things as equatible as possible. This is the antithesis to authoritarianism.

      So, no. I’m not aware of this and don’t believe it. If someone told me they’re both left and authoritarian I would tell them sticking feathers up your ass does not make you a chicken.

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          1 year ago

          They’re authoritarian. Left and Right get conflated with communism/capitalism but all four exist separately from each other.

          Leftism is about equity of power and the right is about protecting power structures that exist even if unbalanced (the status quo).

          Capitalism and communism are economic systems, not political positions.

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        1 year ago

        You need to enforce equity though, it’s not something that humans do naturally.

        Through that enforcement of equity you are choosing authoritarianism.

        There is no equity equilibrium to reach unless it’s from the threat of violence, to keep everyone down to the lowest rung. While hiding all the inequity that the ones at the top enjoy, or making excuses for it.

        Sort of how bill gates believe he should be able to fly in private jets because what he is doing is more important than what you would need to fly for is. So you’ll accept it.

        https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2023/02/08/bill-gates-private-jet-bbc-contd-orig-na-fj.cnn-business

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        1 year ago

        The libertarian left is anti-authoritarian. But unless you are going to exclude all marxist-leninist from the left, regardless of their advocacy for equality and opposition to the capitalist system, left authoritarianism obviously exists. I think perhaps you are engaged in a no true Scotsman fallacy?

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            1 year ago

            Eh, only because their ideological blinders block their understanding that what they are advocating ends up in corporate feudalism. Their hierarchy is property based.

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              1 year ago

              I mean, it only makes sense.

              If I want to stand where you’re standing, there is going to be some way to settle who gets to stand there