• theinspectorst@kbin.social
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    ‘Get them back’. What does ‘back’ even mean in this statement? Of all the countries that have ever legitimately ruled the Falklands, Argentina was never one of them.

    The penguins have a better claim to the Falklands than Argentina…

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      I agree it’s more British than Argentinian. But “Argentina never one of the rulers” isn’t quite right. There were several stints of Argentinan (or Spanish but back when that was the same thing) occupation long before the war.

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        Yeah, Spanish. That’s the point. There were penguins, then was French, it was Spanish, it was British. It was never Argentinian. There were never civilians there.

        The only civilians who have lived there are the Falkland Islanders, who identify as British. Argentina’s claim is based on the Spanish once having a very limited military presence there, on which basis they want to assert some sort of imperialist sovereignty over a bunch of civilians whose ancestors have been there for hundreds of years and who have only ever considered themselves British.

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        That would give Spain a claim on them then, not the country that exists because it said it was not Spain.

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      Malvinas islans are legally and physically part of Argentina and this is accepted by a majority in the UN, they are also the symbol of the centrist liberals (imagine the island of the statue of liberty) so this new neonazi psycho (and elon fan redditor) wants to “eliminate” their symbols including the ministries, universal health care, education systems, social plans that support several million of poor and make their party illegal

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        The metric by which Argentina has a legal claim on the islands would also give the US a claim.

        Argentina is making the case for being invaded by the US under the causus belli of defense from an invading force whenever they say they get to eat the Falklands because something something tordesillas

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          Have you even read it?

          Honestly, you think I would go through all of this if I had not read it? No reason to be a jerk about this.

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              If you have read it you have not understood it.

              /sigh

              If nothing else, you can see that I’ve been arguing from a position of some knowledge on the matter, bring up coherent facts to bolster my opinions.

              You may not agree with my conclusions, but it doesn’t mean that I haven’t read what I’ve been citing as part of my argument in this discussion.

              So please, stop attacking my intelligence. It doesn’t make for a good discussion, and makes Lemmy more toxic.

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                dude, you are a rabid nationalist, and it’s affecting your perception of reality.

                you’re posting the same comment again and again, which doesn’t even support your case, and totally missing the points that everyone else is talking about.

                go for a long walk in fresh air, and maybe consider that your hurt feelings about what flags fly where don’t outweigh the virtually unanimous decision of the people who have actually lived on the islands for generations.

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                  dude, you are a rabid nationalist, and it’s affecting your perception of reality.

                  You know nothing about me, and are determined to ‘Kill the Messenger’. If you still feel the need to be rude, carry on, Internet Warrior.

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                If nothing else, you can see that I’ve been arguing from a position of some knowledge on the matter, bring up coherent facts to bolster my opinions.

                Hahahahaha

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                  If nothing else, you can see that I’ve been arguing from a position of some knowledge on the matter, bring up coherent facts to bolster my opinions.

                  Hahahahaha

                  Noticed you didn’t quote my next sentence…

                  You may not agree with my conclusions, but it doesn’t mean that I haven’t read what I’ve been citing as part of my argument in this discussion.

                  If that’s the best you got in way of debating, then that doesn’t bode well for Lemmy going forward.